Stauffer's call of the 6th tonight.

[JerseyJ]

What a great thread this has turned into.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

A few questions:

1) Did a thread started by Stonegossard really elicit 200 responses?

2) Is this entire thread really about whether or not Vic's perceived bias is an issue that needs to be dealt with?

3) Did Stonegossard manage to squeak my name in here somewhere?

If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.

































I'm lying.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If this thread brought you out of retirement at least something good happened.


I'm lying.

It's not as much retirement as it is the fact that I thought horse racing ended after the Triple Crown every year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

It's not as much retirement as it is the fact that I thought horse racing ended after the Triple Crown every year.

99% of the general public believes horse racing ends with your last blog of the year.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

lol it is kind of hilarious to imagine the kind of call a race announcer would give if his sole intention was to shout alerts and advice to his jockey.

Absurb or not Rosario is a better rider statistically at Hollywood Pk than he is at Santa Anita or Delmar. Let's examine his record the last 3 meets:

Hol - 301 67 = 22.25% (excluding today's card)
SA - 537 83 = 15.46%
Del - 254 36 = 14.17%

Perhaps it's coincidental but interesting nevertheless, maybe he likes Vic's pipes.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Could it be that we have a bunch of weenies that need to get the last post in?

Call me mindless and I fold like a cheap suit.

Had a few "weenies" at the ball game tonight we'll call this "all summer long" thread!

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

What a great thread this has turned into.

[HaloWishingwell]

I'm still waiting for as rallying Roasrio and the call of "get that f^%king horse out of his way!" leading to "die you co*%sucking frontrunner!"

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell

I'm still waiting for as rallying Roasrio and the call of "get that f^%king horse out of his way!" leading to "die you co*%sucking frontrunner!"

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

[DerbyCat]

Like others here, I have followed these threads but refrained from commenting because I disliked the venom that is being spewed by some folks on this board. I finally listened to the race call and yes, Rosario's horses name is featured prominently in the later stages of the race but it appears to be due primarily to the burst of speed and continued momentum of the horse. If I was not looking for it ("it" being that the announcer was the agent for the jockey on Ellie L.) I would have thought nothing of the call - I actually would have been impressed and might have believed that the announcer could sense that Ellie L. was moving strongly forward and that the leading horse could falter and might not finish well, thus putting an emphasis on the next most likely horse. I did not hear a bias in the call, but that's my opinion.

What I would be interested to see is a posting of more races where this "bias" is prominent because I don't believe anyone can conclude that this particular announcer is emphasizing one specific jockey in his calls from just one race, I certainly can't. Assuming the Hollywood meet lasts approximately 60 days with an average of nine races per day, that's 540 races to call. If someone can post 25 races (less than 5% of all races this meet) where the majority of DTers would agree that the announcer showed bias towards Rosario's horse in his call then I believe we could show statistical significance to the original posters claim. Without that, it appears we're all taking sides like an elementary school playground fight.

[Riot]

I like Vic's calls alot, precisely because he does notice which horses are coming into contention, he is accurately descriptive of the way they are traveling (relaxed, fighting, etc), he gets excited during a good race, and he doesn't miss much.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Like others here, I have followed these threads but refrained from commenting because I disliked the venom that is being spewed by some folks on this board. I finally listened to the race call and yes, Rosario's horses name is featured prominently in the later stages of the race but it appears to be due primarily to the burst of speed and continued momentum of the horse. If I was not looking for it ("it" being that the announcer was the agent for the jockey on Ellie L.) I would have thought nothing of the call - I actually would have been impressed and might have believed that the announcer could sense that Ellie L. was moving strongly forward and that the leading horse could falter and might not finish well, thus putting an emphasis on the next most likely horse. I did not hear a bias in the call, but that's my opinion.

What I would be interested to see is a posting of more races where this "bias" is prominent because I don't believe anyone can conclude that this particular announcer is emphasizing one specific jockey in his calls from just one race, I certainly can't. Assuming the Hollywood meet lasts approximately 60 days with an average of nine races per day, that's 540 races to call. If someone can post 25 races (less than 5% of all races this meet) where the majority of DTers would agree that the announcer showed bias towards Rosario's horse in his call then I believe we could show statistical significance to the original posters claim. Without that, it appears we're all taking sides like an elementary school playground fight.

I agree with you, the best way to settle it is start 25 polls for each of the races.....then after everyone votes on them and agrees with a clear cut majority there is no prejudice in his calls, hear a certain few call the majority morons. Wait, we already did that. My bad.

[HaloWishingwell]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

You'll be using earlier than you think....Hollywood Gold Cup

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Have that saved for closing day. Oh wait. That's a rehearsed call. Oh Oh better start a new thread.

No need to. After closing day won't have to worry about your calls on a major circuit again.

Originally Posted by stonegossard

No need to. After closing day won't have to worry about your calls on a major circuit again.

You really are just a HATER aren't you? Whatever. I wish you and yours nothing but the best.

Thanks for listening.

VJS

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

You really are just a HATER aren't you? Whatever. I wish you and yours nothing but the best.

Thanks for listening.

VJS

Not a hater Vic. You wanna take a shot at me I'll take one right back at you.

It's funny how you talk down to your fanclub on here and they don't even see it. "Hey Kids"........gimme a break.


I wish you much success as a jocks agent after you are done calling races.

Thanks for giving me the time of day. I know you get up at 5 a.m. and all.........