Egypt

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Your comparison between the treatment of muslim women and christians dictating what a woman does with her body is very telling. Those christians (you speak of) feel as though abortion is murder and their religion tells them so. Believe it or not their motivation is not in controlling women but preserving a life. Personally I think they should be responsible for themselves but can understand them not wanting their money to be used in what they consider a murder. Unlike their muslim counterpart they are not trying to tell a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. They also don't kill their daughters to preserve their honor and certainly don't circumcise their little girls. Though some Christians admittedly do insist on marrying a virgin.

But yea I see how you think they are similar

that was great Dell.. and spot on

[Antitrust32]

I would like to know Riot... the great judger of all people..

What category did you say I am in?

The bigoted Muslim hater category??

or the disrespectful towards women category?

[Antitrust32]

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

Riot throwing all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today. This is a new thing I didnt know about. Riot would that? Hmmmmm. Riot will now label you also as a hateful person. Welcome to the club. Lots of people are hateful according to Riot.
Instead of Bigot of America maybe Bimbo of America suits Riot.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Another thing that rings true is Obama hasn't a clue.

The diplomats at the State Department view the Egyptian crisis through the lens of American strategic interests in the region, its threat to the 1979 peace accord between Egypt and Israel, and its effects on the Middle East peace process.

Makes a lot of sense, you know looking out for American Strategic Interests and all ^^^^^^

Meanwhile and here’s where it gets scary.

Workers in the West Wing also worried that if Mr. Obama did not encourage the young people in the streets with forceful, even inspiring language, he would be accused of abandoning the ideals he expressed in his 2009 speech in Cairo.

So did the voters who sided with Obama expect him to act on his ideals expressed in a speech or for American strategic interests?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/wo...ewanted=2&_r=1

Obama hasnt had a clue since January 2009.

[Riot]

[quote=dellinger63;752320]

Originally Posted by Dell

Yea but not the religion just their actions like: telling a woman she can't date, drive, who to marry, how to dress, where they can go and who they can talk to. Killing their daughters to preserve their honor and circumcising their little girls. That's all for now.

Too bad "Muslims" don't do all that on a regular basis in the real world.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

no ma'am.

I'm in the realist category that you preach about high upon your pulpit.

Yes, I did see where you changed your answer to "some".

But how did you arrive at your figure of the number of jihadists? Was there a census?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, I did see where you changed your answer to "some".

But how did you arrive at your figure of the number of jihadists? Was there a census?

I never changed or edited any of my answers.

I posted how I came up with that figure in another thread from months ago. It was just through researching on the internet.. Most of the info prob came from Wiki.

Its estimated that there are 1 billion Muslims in the world. Its estimated that 10% support the jihad agenda (might not all be violent, but support those actions). 10% of 1 billion is 100,000,000.

[Riot]

I never changed or edited any of my answers.

I am referring to your "Disclaimer" post.

I posted how I came up with that figure in another thread from months ago. It was just through researching on the internet.. Most of the info prob came from Wiki.

Its estimated that there are 1 billion Muslims in the world. Its estimated that 10% support the jihad agenda (might not all be violent, but support those actions). 10% of 1 billion is 100,000,000.

I wonder who did that estimating? And how would they do it? It's not like there's a "Club Jihad" folks can join, where membership could be counted ...

There was an instance, a little over a year ago, where Glenn Beck just pulled a number out of his ass, and said it on his radio show. That number was 10%.

The amazing thing is that, if there are really 100 million terrorists out there, why are we wasting time trying to fight 200-400 Al Quaeda in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Pakistan? Puzzling ....

[Antitrust32]

It was certainly not Glenn Beck who gave me that number.

You are welcome to search through threads if you want to find my sources.

And it was not any right wing leaning sites either.

[Antitrust32]

I did a brief search and could not find the post I was referring too.

I believe most of the research was from Wiki.

And its not 100,000,000 violent Terrorits. That number includes terrorists, supporters of Sharia Law (the people who treat women like dog crap), and the Muslims that support the jihad.

I dont differenciate between the violent ones and the people who support the violent terrorists.

Luckily for this world, only 10% of Muslims support a radical view of Islam. That leaves 900,000,000 fairly peaceful Muslims.

If all 100% supported extremism.. this world would be fucl<ed.


Am I a bigot?? or did you mean I was a woman hater when you said that "i am one of them"?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

since Riot is throwing out all sorts of inflammitory labels at people today

I'm naming Riot the Bigot of America.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted America hate thing going on from Riot. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes Riot look ignorant. She thinks Christians and Conservatives and Americans must be struck down.

I think she shares the self-loathing being an American as Obama & Co. does. She and they think we made our bones not by capitalism but by taking advantage of others.

BTW Don't tap the glass, they (being Riot & Co.) think they'll win in a landslide. With the new recreation of Obama as Reagan?

Can't make a Ford Pinto into a GMC C4500 ever!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I did a brief search and could not find the post I was referring too.

I believe most of the research was from Wiki.

And its not 100,000,000 violent Terrorits. That number includes terrorists, supporters of Sharia Law (the people who treat women like dog crap), and the Muslims that support the jihad.

I dont differenciate between the violent ones and the people who support the violent terrorists.

Luckily for this world, only 10% of Muslims support a radical view of Islam. That leaves 900,000,000 fairly peaceful Muslims.

If all 100% supported extremism.. this world would be fucl<ed.


Am I a bigot?? or did you mean I was a woman hater when you said that "i am one of them"?

When she can post the "find a husband for a spinster Christian site. (where only brothers and fathers speak for the potential bride) she will finally make some progress.

Or at least serve her what I'm buying, a STFU shot!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's some other views of the MB that try to anticipate their involvement in Egypts future, based upon their performances in the past.

Nobody, including Egyptians, wants to see a violent, terroristic regime end up in place - they just got rid of that. But many, especially in the United States, seem to be focusing on the fearing the MB exclusively.

The Muslim Bogeymen in Egypt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-..._b_817988.html

English Website Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

Don't Fear Egypts Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/20...pt_riedel.aspx

And even The Jerusalem Post (with links to other concerns about the MB) - Sun, Feb 13, 2011 http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207500

wow that did not take long....What's strange is under Mubarak the Egyptian Constitution did not allow for political parties to be formed on a religious basis. Under the new, freer Egypt they will be allowed. I suppose if enough vote for a theocracy in a open election that is what they deserve.

Egypt's long banned Muslim Brotherhood said Tuesday it intends to form a political party once democracy is established, as the country's new military rulers launched a panel of experts to amend the country's constitution enough to allow democratic elections later this year.

The panel is to draw up changes at a breakneck pace - within 10 days - to end the monopoly that ousted President Hosni Mubarak's ruling party once held, which it ensured through widespread election rigging. The initial changes may not be enough for many in Egypt calling for the current constitution, now suspended by the military, to be thrown out completely and rewritten to ensure no one can once again establish autocratic rule. Two members on the panel said the next elected government could further change the document if it choses.

The military's choices for the panel's makeup were a sign of the new political legitimacy of the Muslim Brotherhood, the fundamentalist group that was the most bitter rival of Mubarak's regime. Among the panel's members is Sobhi Saleh, a former lawmaker from the Brotherhood seen as part of its reformist wing.

"The Muslim Brotherhood group believes in the freedom of the formation of political parties. They are eager to have a political party," spokesman Mohammed Mursi said in a statement on the Brotherhood website.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110215/D9LD6CPG0.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I think she shares the self-loathing being an American as Obama & Co. does. She and they think we made our bones not by capitalism but by taking advantage of others.

"Self-loathing". Seriously? Are you looking the mirror or something?

I've started a company from scratch, made a profit and sold it, and now own another. Love that capitalism

Who do you work for?

[Riot]

Dell opines:

BTW Don't tap the glass, they (being Riot & Co.) think they'll win in a landslide. With the new recreation of Obama as Reagan?

Friday, January 21, 2011
Obama doing well in key states
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ey-states.html

There's been a lot of good news for Barack Obama in the national polls lately and certainly that's important. But we still have this funny little electoral college so what's going to be most vital for his reelection prospects is how he does in the key swing states. And there's good news for him there as well.

So far we've done 2012 Presidential polls in 6 of the 9 states that George W. Bush won in 2004 but that Obama won in 2008. Obama leads 23 out of 24 hypothetical match ups that we've tested in those states.

Here's how it breaks down:

Obama vs. Gingrich
Florida +5
Iowa +13
Nevada +11
North Carolina +6
Ohio +6
Virginia +11

Obama vs. Huckabee
Florida +5
Iowa +4
Nevada +10
North Carolina -1
Ohio +1
Virginia +5

Obama vs. Palin
Florida +14
Iowa +16
Nevada +13
North Carolina +14
Ohio +7
Virgina +11

Obama vs Romney
Florida +2
Iowa +6
Nevada +1
North Carolina +3
Ohio +2
Virginia +5

Obama also wins Colorado.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Dell opines:


Friday, January 21, 2011
Obama doing well in key states
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....ey-states.html

There's been a lot of good news for Barack Obama in the national polls lately and certainly that's important. But we still have this funny little electoral college so what's going to be most vital for his reelection prospects is how he does in the key swing states. And there's good news for him there as well.

So far we've done 2012 Presidential polls in 6 of the 9 states that George W. Bush won in 2004 but that Obama won in 2008. Obama leads 23 out of 24 hypothetical match ups that we've tested in those states.

Here's how it breaks down:

Obama vs. Gingrich
Florida +5
Iowa +13
Nevada +11
North Carolina +6
Ohio +6
Virginia +11

Obama vs. Huckabee
Florida +5
Iowa +4
Nevada +10
North Carolina -1
Ohio +1
Virginia +5

Obama vs. Palin
Florida +14
Iowa +16
Nevada +13
North Carolina +14
Ohio +7
Virgina +11

Obama vs Romney
Florida +2
Iowa +6
Nevada +1
North Carolina +3
Ohio +2
Virginia +5

Obama also wins Colorado.

Still a long way to Nov 2012. In case you forgot when Nov 2012 is.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Still a long way to Nov 2012. In case you forgot when Nov 2012 is.

obama is a sure winner vs palin, huckabee or newt. republicans better come up with something better-a lot better. the three stooges sure won't get my vote.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

obama is a sure winner vs palin, huckabee or newt. republicans better come up with something better-a lot better. the three stooges sure won't get my vote.

Im fairly confident the Republicans will come up with something better. Im thinking they will if they take over the Senate in November's voting.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im fairly confident the Republicans will come up with something better. Im thinking they will if they take over the Senate in November's voting.

they could scope the local ymca and come up with better.