Nfl Free Agency - Page 11

Antitrust32 · #**201** 03-21-2012, 01:30 PM

There's no way Tebow starts week 1 in NY unless sanchez is injured.

Even if Tim outplays Mark in the pre-season, I don't see any way Rex doesnt start his guy Sanchez week 1.

RockHardTen1985 · #**202** 03-21-2012, 01:32 PM

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Oh boy.

Oh boy what? Can you even say im wrong? Do you agree with your boy Tony Cromartie?

Clip-Clop · #**203** 03-21-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There's no way Tebow starts week 1 in NY unless sanchez is injured.

Even if Tim outplays Mark in the pre-season, I don't see any way Rex doesnt start his guy Sanchez week 1.

The heat on Rex (who clearly looks like a gent that cannot handle the heat)will be too much if Sanchez looks anything like the 2011 version in preseason, Tebow will be better this year (knows what he is up against, full workout time) than he was last (with no off season) and will show it.

Dahoss · #**204** 03-21-2012, 01:35 PM

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Oh boy what? Can you even say im wrong? Do you agree with your boy Tony Cromartie?

You're always wrong. Your opinion on everything is horrible.

Antitrust32 · #**205** 03-21-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

The heat on Rex (who clearly looks like a gent that cannot handle the heat)will be too much if Sanchez looks anything like the 2011 version in preseason, Tebow will be better this year (knows what he is up against, full workout time) than he was last (with no off season) and will show it.

I kind of agree with your assesment.. but I still don't think there is any way Tebow starts game 1.

5 or 6 games into it.. if the jets have a poor record and Sanchez is playing like he did last year, then yes.. i can see it then.

Dahoss · #**206** 03-21-2012, 01:38 PM

Look, I'm glad Tebow is coming to the Jets, but let's not get too crazy with Tebow here.

If anyone seriously wanted him, the Broncos would have been able to get more for him. No one, even the team he helped make the playoffs last year, buy him as a starting QB.

He's not going to beat Sanchez out as starter ever.

MaTH716 · #**207** 03-21-2012, 01:40 PM

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I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

Yeah, I'm not sure about the coddling. His first season was a trial by fire, which ended up with a playoff run. Now there were times when he deserved to be yanked, but they had no veteran on the bench to replace him. More importantly they had no veteran to mentor the kid either. Then they get Bruenell and it was much the same, but more importantly he played very well when it counted.

Now I'm not sure what happened last year. There were a lot of Jets fans who haven't been happy with Schotty/play calling for a while. They didn't run the ball well and they didn't protect Sanchez. Once again there were times he could have been pulled, although sometimes it wasn't his fault (the Eagles game comes to mind). But he was flat out awful at times, no arguement from me.

Then the season ends and the whole world gangs up on Sanchez. Some guys came to his defense, but I guess the label has stuck. Is it accurate? I'm not sure. But my point is, that after a season which was shortened by the lockout, lots of complaining at Schotty, players fighting with each other and a severe issues with the offensive line, I think based on his success in his first two seasons, I would have given him a pass for last season and looked forward to a big year this year. Also making sure Sanchez and Holmes are on the same page. He was a major culprit that did nothing but ignite trouble (after getting his payday).

They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.

Clip-Clop · #**208** 03-21-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I kind of agree with your assesment.. but I still don't think there is any way Tebow starts game 1.

5 or 6 games into it.. if the jets have a poor record and Sanchez is playing like he did last year, then yes.. i can see it then.

Two weeks into camp when Rex sees Sanchez at his locker crying about the Jets bringing in other guys to compete and Tebow consoling him, it will be over. At least thats my hope.

Dahoss · #**209** 03-21-2012, 01:44 PM

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They missed the playoffs by one game and it feels like they are sounding the panic alarms on the QB who played well in his first 2 seasons. If they really have questions about him, then they should have never signed him to the extention and make him sing for his supper this year.

But what is the panic alarm? Because they were half assed interested in Peyton Manning?

Every team aside from like 4 or 5 probably thought about it also.

I don't view bringing in Tebow as a panic alarm at all. He's not being brought in to start IMO.

Dahoss · #**210** 03-21-2012, 01:45 PM

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Two weeks into camp when Rex sees Sanchez at his locker crying about the Jets bringing in other guys to compete and Tebow consoling him, it will be over. At least thats my hope.

Another knee slapper.

Clip-Clop · #**211** 03-21-2012, 01:50 PM

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Another knee slapper.

Guy is weak minded and never faced any competition. Now he is toe to toe with the hardest competitor in the league. He will have his hands full. $20?

RockHardTen1985 · #**212** 03-21-2012, 01:52 PM

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You're always wrong. Your opinion on everything is horrible.

My handicapping opinion has been about as rock solid as it gets for a month now. A blind man could see that. Its cool though.....

Dahoss · #**213** 03-21-2012, 01:53 PM

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Guy is weak minded and never faced any competition. Now he is toe to toe with the hardest competitor in the league. He will have his hands full. $20?

With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. Tebow couldn't outwork anyone in camp last year. All of the sudden he's an elite talent? An elite talent that was able to be obtained for a 4th round pick?

$20 isn't enough.

Dahoss · #**214** 03-21-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

My handicapping opinion has been about as rock solid as it gets for a month now. A blind man could see that. Its cool though.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

RockHardTen1985 · #**215** 03-21-2012, 01:57 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

Cheering for me at Aqu? 7-1 and 8-1 back to back on 2 tickets? Thanks HOSSY.

Clip-Clop · #**216** 03-21-2012, 01:59 PM

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With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. Tebow couldn't outwork anyone in camp last year. All of the sudden he's an elite talent? An elite talent that was able to be obtained for a 4th round pick?

$20 isn't enough.

Everything I say is about Sanchez weakness, Tebows weakness is throwing the ball, that can be improved. Sanchez issues are much deeper.

A. There was no camp last year.
B. Hard competitior does not = elite talent, I never put it that way.
C. Sanchez is neither elite talent nor hard worker.
D. Tebow was given away to the first bidders to avoid distraction/handle Elways ego.
E. Unless you are a local, $20 is all I am willing to collect via mail.

Dahoss · #**217** 03-21-2012, 02:02 PM

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Everything I say is about Sanchez weakness, Tebows weakness is throwing the ball, that can be improved. Sanchez issues are much deeper.

A. There was no camp last year.
B. Hard competitior does not = elite talent, I never put it that way.
C. Sanchez is neither elite talent nor hard worker.
D. Tebow was given away to the first bidders to avoid distraction/handle Elways ego.
E. Unless you are a local, $20 is all I am willing to collect via mail.

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Don't worry, it's the internet. You have plenty of company in this arena.

Dahoss · #**218** 03-21-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Cheering for me at Aqu? 7-1 and 8-1 back to back on 2 tickets? Thanks HOSSY.

Are you collecting at the Backyard OTB?

Clip-Clop · #**219** 03-21-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Don't worry, it's the internet. You have plenty of company in this arena.

OK
Sanchez is elite. There was a training camp last year. Elway has no ego. Tebow is not a competitor.
Clearly you are the authority on football and QBs around here.
Sounds right now?

MaTH716 · #**220** 03-21-2012, 02:07 PM

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But what is the panic alarm? Because they were half assed interested in Peyton Manning?

Every team aside from like 4 or 5 probably thought about it also.

I don't view bringing in Tebow as a panic alarm at all. He's not being brought in to start IMO.

The fact that they are kicking the tires and trading for big name QB's the year after their franchise QB (whom they traded up for and has helped them get to the AFC title game in his first 2 years) character and work ethic has come in to question, would be worrisome for me. Obviously his poor season last year is a major part of it too. They are just sending out very mixed signals, which is possibly what they want. But like I said, I feel like Sanchez deserved a pass for last season. If he stunk again this year, he would have had one year left on his contract (before the extention) and then they could have re-evaluated their stance on him.

Instead, they give him the extention (after flirting with Peyton Manning) and now trade for a QB who might not be a skilled as Sanchez, but has to be one of the biggest competitors in the league. Not to mention that he is loved by everyone. I just think the Jets put themseleves in a no-win situation, not to mention cloudying the relationship between Sanchez and the front office.