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10-15-2008, 07:13 AM
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why dont people 'like' him? here's who he beat in the pan: mint lane, ready's echo, Golden Spikes, Cosmic, Spark Candle, Tomcito, Deputyville, and Fast Talking.
yeah, i'm going to bet that horse to beat curlin, well armed, go between, tiago, student council....lol! he didn't cruise on sunday. and he's going to come back and run a lifetime best two weeks after his last? after having his previous races spread apart by how much time?? three months between his debut and the pan, and 5 months between that and sunday. and his 92 beyer sunday is supposedly on par with the horses he'll be facing the 25th? yeah, sure.
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10-15-2008, 07:15 AM
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I took Monday off and went to the OTB 1 hour away. The system was down through the 1st race at Belmont. The teller was an idiot and there were plenty of characters to remind me why I enjoy betting via the internet.
if I can't play the Breeder's Cup from home I may not play at all. The disputes over ADW have prevented me from playing many of my favorite tracks. I don't like calling in my bets and haven't played or watched one race at Santa Anita. I have quit playing everyday and every weekend and don't have the desire to "Crush the Cup" the Breeder's Cup used to be the greatest not it is the least greatest.
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10-15-2008, 09:19 AM
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often unconventional ,so take whatever i say with a grain of salt...
 1. - I could care less about his momma. - Yes I do care about having a quality dam and female family, but I don't believe there is any "belmont blessing" or extra special thing going on here... Solid to good dam and thats it. 2. - Casino Drive is a class animal. He is good physically. He doesn't have any major flaws. He has been well taken care of. He has a good style. Has a little bit of talent. He shows a response. Looks good in motion. This is a nice horse... 3. - In order to have any shot at the Classic, from my opinion, Espinoza would have to put this guy into a move that would normally be called premature, and CD would have to run the whole drive without tiring. You don't see those types of moves very often at all. Jockeys with nice horses tend to run with the group and wait until the last possible minute and do as little as possible. I just haven't seen the talent yet that would give Casino Drive any chance with a standard trip.
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10-15-2008, 10:02 AM
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10-15-2008, 10:16 AM
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That "win over the track" angle is always a great barometer. Court Vision, for example, parlayed that angle into a successful 13th place finish in this year's Derby.
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10-15-2008, 10:25 AM
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Yes, myself I usually prefer a win over good horses to a win over the track. But, hey, to each his ( or her ) own. Maybe beating 25K claimers, while driving, 13 days before the BC Classic has Casino Drive right where they want him. However, if nobody knew who his dam was, and the race was oversubscribed, people would be screaming bloody murder that he was even allowed in the race. The bottom line is that he has absolutely no credentials. It's funny, personally, I would be happy to see him do well. His connections were at Belmont for weeks and seemed really great. But, objectively this situation is a bit curious. He belongs in the BC because he's related to Rags to Riches? OK......that makes sense.
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10-15-2008, 10:37 AM
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10-15-2008, 12:18 PM
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General Admission tix by phone today; face value
Just a quick update for anyone interested.
The "Souvenir Ticket" is available with a phone order at the Santa Anita Breeders Cup link. I ordered two for $20 each, with a reasonable $15 service charge for certified delivery. Up until today I thought that mail in form was required. Saw the offer for "souvenir" with the phone number and was able to transact in about 3 minutes. On some of the ticket sales sites people are asking two and three times face value for General Admission today....
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#230
10-15-2008, 12:21 PM
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Make sure the tickets are fireproof.
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#231
10-15-2008, 12:29 PM
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General Admission is $20 a day walkup. Why purchase them early?
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10-15-2008, 02:17 PM
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Suitable for framing or something, I guess.... For me, I just feel better with tickets in hand since I'm driving in from the Bay Area late the night before. If the $15 keeps me from standing in line a bit, that could be worth it right there. I made the mistake of doing walk-up for a spontaneous Dodger game one night and after 45 minutes of being in line outside.....while the game was already being played.....became very appreciative of having advanced tickets at SoCal events.
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10-15-2008, 02:38 PM
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Official Breeders' Cup Race Order
2008 BREEDERS' CUP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
(All Eastern Time) Championship Friday October 24 Santa Anita Allowance Race 1 2:05 p.m. Santa Anita Allowance Race 2 2:35 p.m. $1 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint 3 3:35 p.m. $1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf 4 4:15 p.m. $2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (gr. I) 5 4:55 p.m. $2 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (gr. I) 6 5:35 p.m. $2 million Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic (gr. I) 7 6:15 p.m. Las Palmas Handicap (gr. II) 8 6:55 p.m. Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 9 7:30 p.m. Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 10 8:05 p.m. Championship Saturday October 25 $500,000 Breeders' Cup Marathon 1 1:10 p.m. $1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint 2 1:50 p.m. $1 million TVG Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile 3 2:30 p.m. $2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m. $2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m. $1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m. $2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m. $3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m. $5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m. Damascus Stakes 10 7:20 p.m. Oak Tree Derby (gr. II) 11 7:55 p.m.
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10-15-2008, 02:47 PM
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