McLaughlin with 3 positives; Gets 30 day ban..

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I don't think they even take his horses out of their stalls.. its strictly room service. He really does take the cake bakes it too

Zaide was on the top of the list. Now that he is gone Ness is next.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

He's been getting away with it everywhere though.

He'll slip up eventually.

[gales0678]

chuck while we are on trainers any opinions about Mark Hennig?

feel free to add Freddie if you know anything

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

You better be careful he doesn't claim one from you at Penn...I don't want to see Komodo running in stakes races next month.

Ask My Lawyer goes on Saturday.. Stokes is listed as owner but DrugS and I really own her. Moving her to Beattie who is certainly a wonderful trainer. She will have her sound in no time. LOL

You see Oneil has a string at Penn now.. Things are getting a bit tougher at the higher levels. You need vermin to earn once you clear thru the BS conditions the racing is real it should be for 40k a pop

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

chuck while we are on trainers any opinions about Mark Hennig?

feel free to add Freddie if you know anything

He has way better hair than most. Freddy is a terrible trainer and a cheat too.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.

Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the one you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two the evidence was there...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Ask My Lawyer goes on Saturday.. Stokes is listed as owner but DrugS and I really own her. Moving her to Beattie who is certainly a wonderful trainer. She will have her sound in no time. LOL

You see Oneil has a string at Penn now.. Things are getting a bit tougher at the higher levels. You need vermin to earn once you clear thru the BS conditions the racing is real it should be for 40k a pop

Yeah I see that. Barry Abrams sent a bunch there too...but they run in some other name...he is just listed as owner. Beattie is definitely a good trainer.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN

He can fill in the blanks!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Yeah I see that. Barry Abrams sent a bunch there too...but they run in some other name...he is just listed as owner. Beattie is definitely a good trainer.

I like her the horses never work and if they do it is super slow. More importantly she is well versed in what are and arent medications allowed in Pa. Whatever is allowed is supported with open arms .. the vet is terrific less isnever more unless its against the law.. Once Chuck starts using Rene will see a happy chuck

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

He can fill in the blanks!

He'll spin the facts as usual will hear some crap about private deals the price listed wrong etc etc..

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

He'll spin the facts as usual will hear some crap about private deals the price listed wrong etc etc..

I averaged them out by removing the homebreds (under a Speightstown cover), repeat winners and the RNA and got 54,333. Granted I still have 4 that I don't know if they were homebreds or not.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.

Always can count on you!

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Kasept

The lack of furor is because McLaughlin is perceived as likable, innocuous and, most utterly mystifying, somehow above reproach. That was my point originally. There's a shocking double standard about who gets vilified when these incidents come up. The well-packaged, most blatant edge-takers somehow skate in the public eye while the Oil Can Harrys are heaped on in an orgy of outrage.

Steve,
Are you saying that Kiaran is one of those "well-packaged, most blatant edge-takers"? We are talking about a very small amount that may, at that amount, have a negliable effect on performance. Plus, as long as we have a sport governed by multiple entities with varying rules and regulations I think a mistake or misjudgement is bound to happen. There are many states that can run on that substance at that level without any problem. Why doesn't everybody just take a breath and wait on the split sample. It is too bad that the tests have yet to be confirmed and Ray came out with this.

[Kasept]

FYI... McLaughlin starts a 30 day suspension today..

[MISTERGEE]

by giving him 30 days who is going to be scared off of cheating by that?

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

by giving him 30 days who is going to be scared off of cheating by that?

You are very right about that. It is down-right silly.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

by giving him 30 days who is going to be scared off of cheating by that?

A nice little vacation before Gulfstream cranks up.

If I could get 30 days and slide right back into my job after those 30 days, I'd start injecting myself.

[Sightseek]

Look, new policies.

Kentucky adopts new test rules
By Matt Hegarty
LEXINGTON, Ky. - The Kentucky Racing Commission adopted new regulations Tuesday that will drop a requirement to test all race winners for illegal drugs in favor of a new policy that focuses on horses whose performances are suspicious.

Under the new regulations, all winners will be sent to the test barn for the collection of blood and urine samples, along with at least one other horse in the race selected by the three stewards. However, if the winner is among the race's favorites and performed according to its recent past performances, its post-race sample will only be tested 50 percent of the time, while the samples from the horse or horses selected by the stewards will always be tested.

Stewards are supposed to select the horses based on several criteria, including aberrant wagering patterns, performances that are significantly better or worse than a horse's odds or past performances would indicate, or intelligence from racetrack security, according to Dr. Mary Scollay, the commission's equine medical director.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/109277.html