Muslims have gone too far

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The problem is people like you that make excuses for people that worship scum.

The problem is people like you that treat people like scum due to their own hate and fear. Treat the scum like scum. The real problem is terrorism. Thus you are free to keep publically doing that, and I am free to keep publically rejecting your views.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Tim McVeigh attacked a federal building in the name of politics. His belief in his god gave him strength..

You do know McVeigh never belonged to an organized church, christian or other, don't you? But you ALWAYS have all of the inside info about EVERYTHING so I trust he got on his knees numurous times to pray for god's strength on the way to the Federal building? The producers who made the movie should have consulted you.

Now you may be onto something with the David Berkowitz listening to dog voices and terrorist muslams listening to their koran comparison. Not sure they'd appreciate muhammad's teaching to dog voices but maybe the 90% of the good ones you speak of wouldn't behead you.

RIOT I know McVeigh and Berkowitz both had health insurance so it wasn't that.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Point is that there are zero good Muslims. Why am I so sure of that? Quite simply you can't be a fan of somebody who did the following things to people, and be a good person (unless, of course, you use Bob's Apologetic Methods n' Tactics.)

Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

You wouldn't say fans of Hitler are "good people." Why would you say fans of this scum are good people? Do you really understand who they admire? Really? Sir, this man was/is evil. I'm sorry that you are so worried about offending people that you simply ignore the fact these are evil's supporters. See, I can go on with this forever, because (in this situation) you will always be on the side of evil. I have so many weapons to destroy any apologetic arguments you come up with, because there will never be a good reason to ignore the fact that people support evil. Anyone who says they are a Muslim is telling you that their holy person is someone who had 800-900 Jews beheaded. BOB, that's not a good person. Good people aren't fans of that individual. I'm not saying to put them in camps, but I don't want any more allowed to come here (at all.) I can't make people care about evil. They either do, or they don't. If you people want to say not all Muslims believe what their prophet believed, then I want to hear it from them (in front of other Muslims.) It's a long list of stuff they would have to not believe in.

That is so f+cking wrong

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Bin Laden's political goals are really a means to an end and that end is about religion. He wants to overthrow governments and put Islamic extremists in power to practice his brand of Islam. The US wants democracy in the Middle East. Bin Laden wants repressive regimes in the Middle East that force people to practice his brand of Islam. Bin Laden obviously does not want us meddling and promoting democracy in the Middle East because that interferes with his goals. So I agree with you that Bin Laden doesn't like our policies in the Middle East but I think the reason he doesn't like them is because they hinder his goal of spreading extremist Islamic ideology in the Middle East. It's not just about politics.

I don't know that its bin laden wanting to spread his religion. He hates and has contempt for us, altho he didn't mind our help vs russia back in the day. However I think he uses the shared religion with so many in that area to get them to join his fight because its something they share that sets them apart from us

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You do know McVeigh never belonged to an organized church, christian or other, don't you? But you ALWAYS have all of the inside info about EVERYTHING so I trust he got on his knees numurous times to pray for god's strength on the way to the Federal building? The producers who made the movie should have consulted you.

Now you may be onto something with the David Berkowitz listening to dog voices and terrorist muslams listening to their koran comparison. Not sure they'd appreciate muhammad's teaching to dog voices but maybe the 90% of the good ones you speak of wouldn't behead you.

RIOT I know McVeigh and Berkowitz both had health insurance so it wasn't that.

I didn't say McVeigh did it for religion. I said he did it for politics: his hate of the federal government.

Tim McVeigh's interviews about why he did what he did - his own words during his interrogations - were well publicized. No secret.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I didn't say McVeigh did it for religion. I said he did it for politics: his hate of the federal government.

Tim McVeigh's interviews about why he did what he did - his own words during his interrogations - were well publicized. No secret.

missed the God part. Enlighten us! with quotes not dog voices.

[dellinger63]

and get real you said

RIOT "Did the horror perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh make you reassess Christianity? To look more closely at it's teachings? How many Christians who kill strangers coldly in the name of their god would it take to scare you? 15% or so? C'mon It's not a number, it's the unfamiliarity."


missed the whole anti-gov thing here. You made it up, you were wrong and look like the fool till you retract or create some more heresay. But go ahead that's what you do!

[Riot]

Dell writes:

missed the whole anti-gov thing here.

Then Dell writes:

missed the God part.

Missed the meaning of all of it.

I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That is so f+cking wrong

Face it. You stick up for those who are encouraging evil. They encourage people to worship a guy who had 800 or so Jews beheaded right in front of him. They say he cut some off himself. He is scum, and you constantly say many of his supporters are good people. You're disgusted that we don't see them as just good people. Facts are heavily to the side opposite of your's....... Never stops you from couching up something.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

The problem is people like you that treat people like scum due to their own hate and fear. Treat the scum like scum. The real problem is terrorism. Thus you are free to keep publically doing that, and I am free to keep publically rejecting your views.

Basic problem is that f'n so called religion, and the tarded way apologetics white wash it. Where do you think they got the idea to behead those 2 Jews in those videos? Could it be their own Prophet did the same damn act? They didn't come up with that on their own. They had a teacher. Many of you apologetics are ignoring that it's the core that's rotten. Not just a few of the outer spots on the sides.

[Danzig]

you're right scuds. some muslims are definitely bad people. doesn't mean every last one of them is-which i believe is your contention, and everyone else's reason for arguing the point with you. see, there was this guy named hitler, he lumped in a whole group of people due to their religion, and did his very best to kill every one of them. you sound like him when you go on your rants.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right scuds. some muslims are definitely bad people. doesn't mean every last one of them is-which i believe is your contention, and everyone else's reason for arguing the point with you. see, there was this guy named hitler, he lumped in a whole group of people due to their religion, and did his very best to kill every one of them. you sound like him when you go on your rants.

Well, see that's your imagination. Your extending someone's view to fit your own view of them. I never said to round them up, and put them in camps, but many of you have written that for me. I said that I don't want any more coming in here. Don't you think my life is much more at risk (for giving my opinion about their Prophet) than their's is? I am certainly not going out to kill them. Would you all be surprised if one of them offed me for saying my opinion about their prophet? I bet not. Now, I want you to tell me why these people (who worship a guy who beheaded innocent people) aren't bad people. That's their prophet. A guy who beheaded people that simply refused to believe his lies. Read what he said. He said that refusing to believe was worse than slaughter. How can anyone be good if they are choosing this as someone to look up to? I think you folks have a bigger hill to climb (to show they are good people) than I do. I'm just looking at facts, and you folks are trying to overcome the facts (to create a pretty outcome.) Facts are they worship a very bad person. I agree that it's not a pleasant fact, but it's not fiction.

SCUDS some of them are just stupid, not evil.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

SCUDS some of them are just stupid, not evil.

Fact is they worship an evil person. After all the distracting writing about me is over, this will still be factual.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Fact is they worship an evil person. After all the distracting writing about me is over, this will still be factual.

Yeah but many Muslims are illiterate and forced into the cult. They're just stupid. All religions are overloading with stupid people.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

SCUDS some of them are just stupid, not evil.

Fact is they worship an evil person. After all the distractful writing about me is over, this will still be factual. I will have stayed on the truth as others make their efforts to pursuade others to ignore the truth.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Fact is they worship an evil person. After all the distractful writing about me is over, this will still be factual.

Well the Old Testament god is an a.sshole and arguably evil.

It's the same s.hit in most religions. The Catholics are controlled by old closeted kiddie-fiddlers and Muslims are controlled by women-hating closet homosexuals.

This isn't a knock on homosexuality so don't take it that way. These people are angry because they can't live their life the way it's intended. They are crippled by doctrine.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well the Old Testament god is an a.sshole and arguably evil.

It's the same s.hit in most religions. The Catholics are controlled by old closeted kiddie-fiddlers and Muslims are controlled by women-hating closet homosexuals.

This isn't a knock on homosexuality so don't take it that way. These people are angry because they can't live their life the way it's intended. They are crippled by doctrine.

See, this is distraction. You can say anything you want about that subject (other religions,) but it won't change the fact that these people (in this so called religion) worship this evil person. It only makes you feel better, because it somehow takes the focus off it. Somehow it makes you feel better that there are others that are somewhat fkd up, but it doesn't change the original sorry situation at all. It only clouds it up. The fact that there are other problems in this world doesn't act as an elixir for the fact that 20-25% of the world worships an evil person..

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

See, this is distraction. You can say anything you want about that subject (other religions,) but it won't change the fact that these people (in this so called religion) worship this evil person. It only makes you feel better, because it somehow takes the focus off it. Somehow it makes you feel better that there are others that are somewhat fkd up, but it doesn't change the original sorry situation at all. It only clouds it up. The fact that there are other problems in this world doesn't act as an elixir for the fact that 20-25% of the world worships an evil person..

How does it make me feel better? The only way I'd feel better if all of a sudden every person on earth was agnostic/atheist.

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,4162695.story

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Gener...d=1313026&SM=1

"In the name of Islam"
"In defense of Islam"

It seems that a whole lot of Muslims other than radicals are acting a bit radical over what the western world thinks is innocuous.

yeah, yeah sure I just dont understand them......we have insulted them.....blah, blah, blah....

Islam is the religion of hypersensitive idiots who wish the rest of us non- Muslims would just all die.