10:30pm Sunday Night President's Having a Press Conference?

[Dahoss]

We knew it.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Seriously? Poor Nascar is entitled to be frustrated with me, because I didn't take the insults and attacks he was directing at me first laying down? Because I stood up to him?

Trying to make it seem like I posted that to Nascar out of thin air is pretty disingenuous. Nice try. Won't fly.

At least I didn't make a false accusation at you of beating up your spouse if someone is dumb enough to be married to you. You like to dish it out but when it is thrown back in your worthless face you cry foul.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

At least I didn't make a false accusation at you of beating up your spouse

Either did I. Wish you could read. That lie you're repeating to create your victimhood was exposed a few posts ago.

You like to dish it out but when it is thrown back in your worthless face you cry foul.

No. I just pointed out exactly what you are, and you can't take women standing up to your crap. I didn't post that response to you out of thin air. I posted it in defense of your bullshiat towards me. Why don't you post the crap you said to me, first, that prompted my reponse?

In fact, it's so true still, I'll repeat my words to you again. Maybe you can call me the c-word again to make yourself feel better:

"You're kind of a textbook case of the domineering misogynistic jackass, who sometimes degenerates into wife-beating."

The rest was just line by line comment about the nastiness you wrote to me (Lori left that part out):
"Ordering another person what to feel, attempted control of anothers emotions (setting them up for failure if they dare disagree with you)" "Attempted disparagement, but passive-aggressive, justification of their aggressive actions by saying another agrees with them" "Threat of future harm"

But this part most certainly still applies:

"Yup. You're the textbook misogynistic jackass. Good luck with that, buddy. "

[alysheba4]

nascars avatar.....the beer drinking cat is awesome.......

[Riot]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

nascars avatar.....the beer drinking cat is awesome.......

I can agree to that. Nice segue

[Riot]

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

Thankfully they couldn't, this had to be a consideration for the President and his advisers...guess they were aware of this weakness.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I challenge anyone to look through every post I've made on Derby Trail over the past many years, and see where I've cast the first stone at another poster. Yes, Dell and Nascar, I most certainly do defend myself. Nascar, you aren't worth giving the respect of talking to any more.

OK I'll take the challenge. Here's the thread in question.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40986

What post prior to post #191 did I cast the first stone?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

No we're all too busy noticing Pakistan must have been harboring bin Laden.

This comment is almost as odd as 'she'll be OK' or 'Carter has a deep understanding'.

You are a bit off!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

OK I'll take the challenge. Here's the thread in question.

Yes, I admit I did call you an idiot, after you deliberately misunderstood and completely misstated what I said, and you told me, "WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?" and another poster told me, "You repulse me".

All because I expressed gladness Lara Logan wasn't killed, and you two didn't like my word choice.

Guilty as charged. I expressed concern over Lara Logan, and you replied with that phrase. I explained my words, you continued to ignore my explaination in favor of deliberately parsing my words to mean something I said they did not. In fact, you continue to deliberately misstate and lie about what I meant to this day. So yes, I did call you an idiot. And you still are, btw. So get over it.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No we're all too busy noticing Pakistan must have been harboring bin Laden.

This comment is almost as odd as 'she'll be OK' or 'Carter has a deep understanding'.

You are a bit off!

Whats odd about it? It's a statement of fact compared to an accusation yet unproven.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Thankfully they couldn't, this had to be a consideration for the President and his advisers...guess they were aware of this weakness.

I know they said that is why they wanted the mission limited to 30 minutes (it took 35 or 40 I think having to go to plan B with the helicopter down) - but they had expected at least for air defense to be launched by that time. It wasn't that I've read?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Whats odd about it? It's a statement of fact compared to an accusation yet unproven.

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

I know they said that is why they wanted the mission limited to 30 minutes (it took 35 or 40 I think having to go to plan B with the helicopter down) - but they had expected at least for air defense to be launched by that time. It wasn't that I've read?

No, there is no evidence that it was...of course there is a possibility that the "right people" were advised to stand down. This like other aspects of the presence of OBL in a luxury estate will come out much later if at all. I would like to give the government of Pakistan the benefit of the doubt due to the sensitive nature of the entire operation.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

It seems like the forensic evidence we got from bin Laden's compound: telephone numbers, computers, etc. - is promising and extended. That could prove more important to getting rid of terrorist plots against us than killing bin Laden alone.

Did anybody else notice this about Pakistan: we flew helicopters deep into their terrority, they didn't know about it, and they couldn't even muster an air defense response after 40 minutes?

they actually did scramble fighters as the special forces team was leaving. we contacted them and told them they were ours. and there's speculation we have some stealth capabilities here.

http://www.armedforces-int.com/news/...elicopter.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

I wish you could understand the words other people write.

Yes, we didn't tell the Pakis were were there. That is the point. That is why I find it so odd that, after 30-40 minutes, they still had not mustered any response an air incursion over their territory, to their military academy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

they actually did scramble fighters as the special forces team was leaving. we contacted them and told them they were ours. i also have heard speculation from someone who said the tail of the blackhawk that was destroyed remained afterwards and it looked nothing like any other blackhawk. there's speculation we have some stealth capabilities here.

Thanks! I hadn't seen that! Stealth capability there would be awesome, indeed.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

yea cause you and Riot believe in hope over fact.

BTW It's a fact we didn't let the Paki's know and they were forced to scramble jets because WE DIDN'T TRUST THEM! That's fact! And again why Riot and now your response are so odd IMO.

You seem to confuse "hope" with "fact"...it's a fact they didn't muster a defense by scrambling their jets, it's pure conjecture they were harboring OBL.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

. I would like to give the government of Pakistan the benefit of the doubt .

Is that why you and Riot are concerned about their response time from attack? By the U.S.A. ? Do you and Riot even have a clue how Paki men treat their women HERE in the USA?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

they actually did scramble fighters as the special forces team was leaving. we contacted them and told them they were ours. i also have heard speculation from someone who said the tail of the blackhawk that was destroyed remained afterwards and it looked nothing like any other blackhawk. there's speculation we have some stealth capabilities here.

That would make sense, especially in light of the need to destroy the damaged blackhawk.