LSU vs Bama

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

They do. No one usually plays more than one big time school out of conference game...I give credit for LSU scheduling WV this year I guess as well as Oregon...they one upped most teams I guess.


Did you forget the Northwestern State and Western Kentucky games this year??? All 5 of Boise's out of conference foes were better than them.

The SEC makes a tough schedule built in for those teams.

out of conference Boise opponents since turn of the century...They didn't go D1 til 1997.

Georgia twice
Va Tech
Oregon twice
Oregon State 4 times
Arkansas twice
Utah twice
Washington
Washington state twice
South Carolina
BYU twice
Arizona State

3 SEC teams, 5 Pac 10 teams, ACC, and the regional Utah/BYU matchups. They've scheduled people. You want them to play Alabama, LSU, USC, ORegon in one season all on the road, that's not gonna happen.

nope, didn't forget the bad teams...ole miss-winless in the sec two years running, western ky...

i don't care who boise plays. it just rankles when they go undefeated and start bragging, and then you look at their schedule.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Every year, Alabama has to play LSU, So what do you do if you Boise? Do you schedule at Bama, at Oregon, at Texas, etc. every year and come out with 2-3 losses or do you keep doing what you're doing and winning 12-13 games a year, having a great shot at getting a BCS bid, and if things shake out right, being in the title hunt every year?

They do the same thing every year...play one BCS conference school every year, hopefully the first game so they have an entire offseason to prepare for it, then play a mix of MAC and WAC teams...some on the road even!! (which BCS teams absolutely don't do!!) Pray they go undefeated in conference and that mixture has been proven to get them a BCS game. One loss and they're done. Same thing happens every single year. now that they're BCS and in the Big East for football, that forumula is likely over.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

nope, didn't forget the bad teams...ole miss-winless in the sec two years running, western ky...

i don't care who boise plays. it just rankles when they go undefeated and start bragging, and then you look at their schedule.

Why? Going undefeated is a good thing! And they didn't do it so it's moot. I see common opponents on LSU and Boise State's schedule too.

I maintain there is no possible way Boise goes worse than 10-3 playing LSUs schedule this year. the only likely losses I see on that ledger are Alabama and Arkansas. The rest they likely win...I even think they beat Oregon too this year if they played. And they did roll Georgia so they are already 1-0 playing LSU's schedule. The sure complete and total brutality of the SEC probably gives them another loss to a team they should beat I guess. They've played and beaten some good teams the last 10 years. It is what it is. They're not good enough to go unbeaten in the SEC, no one has claimed that. They are good enough to compete with any team in the country on any given day. I do claim that.

[RockHardTen1985]

The line opens at LSU minus 1 and Bama is up to a 1 point favorite at most places. Really unreal to me. If thats the case Ill make a GIANT WAGER ON LSU. I thought they had to open around 4.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

nope, didn't forget the bad teams...ole miss-winless in the sec two years running, western ky...

i don't care who boise plays. it just rankles when they go undefeated and start bragging, and then you look at their schedule.

You are being unreasonable. First off Boise State is a recent development, only over the last 10 years has the program taken off and they have become a national power. You are trying to compare teams from the SEC to a team that plays in Idaho. Idaho isn't exactly fertile recruiting grounds nor is it a media hot spot. The fact is that they are doing this with a tenth of the budget that the SEC schools have, are in a remote area of the country that 75% of college football recruits couldnt pick out on a map, had to install a blue field to get some buzz, and consistently wins 11 and 12 games a year. Earlier in their run top BCS teams were willing to schedule them. Now? Outside the kickoff classic/1st game of the year who outside of the regional Pac-12 teams are willing to go out there? Nobody. Who wants to play them? Nobody. There is a good reason as there is little to gain and a lot to lose and the bigger BCS schools realize this. The Pac 12 doesnt want them because outside of football they have little to offer. The problem with SEC people is that they dont seem to understand that the system is rigged in their favor and teams like Boise are good for the game. The NCAA basketball tournament is a far superior system because every team in Division I has a fair chance at winning the championship and strength of schedule and those other nebulous items are only used for seeding. A playoff system would is a legitimate ending to the season. What we have now is an undefeated team and a lot of propoganda. Don't forget Boise became legit players on the National scene because the won a BCS game against a top program in Oklahoma, not because they were undefeated. Being undefeated gave them that opportunity but winning the game on the field is what made them.

[Danzig]

i'm being unreasonable? hey, good for boise they get a lot of attention. all i'm saying is that they want to play in a top bowl, they need to play a top schedule. you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case. you can't play a light schedule and then ask to be taken seriously, to be put in the same category as bama, lsu, oregon, etc.

not sure how suddenly 'the system is rigged'. not long ago we had an undefeated team get passed over for consideration for the title game(auburn).
the population of the country has inexorably shifted south-it makes sense that football would see some results from that.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm being unreasonable? hey, good for boise they get a lot of attention. all i'm saying is that they want to play in a top bowl, they need to play a top schedule.

How?

Ever since they mopped the floor with eventual PAC 10 champ Oregon two years ago in the game LeGarret Blount had his post-game meltdown in ... no one wants any part of playing them in Boise.

Va Tech was nice enough to schedule them in the South last year and they got beat in a track meet.

Georgia was nice enough to schedule them in Atlanta this year .. and the team who held LSU to 12 total yards in the first half got curb stomped by the Boise offense.

Boise's one loss was to a very good TCU team, and they pretty much laid monster-steamrollings on everyone else they stepped to.

And they're headed to... Vegas?

That's pretty messed up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

How?

Ever since they mopped the floor with eventual PAC 10 champ Oregon two years ago in the game LeGarret Blount had his post-game meltdown in ... no one wants any part of playing them in Boise.

Va Tech was nice enough to schedule them in the South last year and they got beat in a track meet.

Georgia was nice enough to schedule them in Atlanta this year .. and the team who held LSU to 12 total yards in the first half got curb stomped by the Boise offense.

Boise's one loss was to a very good TCU team, and they pretty much laid monster-steamrollings on everyone else they stepped to.

And they're headed to... Vegas?

That's pretty messed up.

so other schools manage to schedule some tough opponents, but boise can't? i didn't know that.


regardless of why they don't have that tough a schedule, it will continue to hamper them post-season.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so other schools manage to schedule some tough opponents, but boise can't? i didn't know that.

Seems you don't understand how the big schools think.

[RockHardTen1985]

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Seems you don't understand how the big schools think.

exactly the issue. It is all about $$$$$$. Why would a BCS conference school want to schedule a home/away commitment with Boise? There is absolutely no benefit in $$$$$. College football is all about the $ for the big time conference schools.

Look at the bowl games this year. Where does 11-1 Boise State get to play? They get to play 6-6 ASU who fired their coach already. oh yeah and they beat Georgia at Georgia.

Does anybody even care about WVU vs Clemson outside of those schools?

The BCS and these bowl games needs to end. What other sport takes over a month off at the end of the season before they play a championship?

[nebrady]

It's simple as this, the idiots need a playoff. They have over 35 stupid bowl games now. Boise state tcu and everyone should get a chance to win it all. Wouldn't it be crazy if could have a december madness like the march one. Instead we got this bcs crap. By the way isn't it crazy that bama who loss at home to lsu, gets to play again and if beats lsu is national champ even though they basically would split! Comon man the system is stupid period!

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by wiphan

exactly the issue. It is all about $$$$$$. Why would a BCS conference school want to schedule a home/away commitment with Boise? There is absolutely no benefit in $$$$$. College football is all about the $ for the big time conference schools.

Home and home? Most schools won't even consider playing them only at home. The sport is a sham until things are decided on the field.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so other schools manage to schedule some tough opponents, but boise can't? i didn't know that.


regardless of why they don't have that tough a schedule, it will continue to hamper them post-season.

Did you forget to read the first post on this page?? You even replied to it. They've played people. Are you unable to comprehend that they have played in the Big West, then the WAC, and finally the Mountain West this year...since they wend D1 they have upgraded their conference continually...they simply got a bad break when Utah and BYU bolted, now they change again in 2013? When you are in a conference you play the conference. Why is it so hard to fathom that anyone in the SEC plays a tough schedule even if they only schedule patsies outside....again if you expect Boise to schedule two SEC teams, two Pac 12 teams and a big 12 team all on the road out of conference, you are not comprehending reality. You want them to play 9 road games and 4 home games every year. Which to play the schedule you want them to would be required.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Did you forget to read the first post on this page?? You even replied to it. They've played people. Are you unable to comprehend that they have played in the Big West, then the WAC, and finally the Mountain West this year...since they wend D1 they have upgraded their conference continually...they simply got a bad break when Utah and BYU bolted, now they change again in 2013? When you are in a conference you play the conference. Why is it so hard to fathom that anyone in the SEC plays a tough schedule even if they only schedule patsies outside....again if you expect Boise to schedule two SEC teams, two Pac 12 teams and a big 12 team all on the road out of conference, you are not comprehending reality. You want them to play 9 road games and 4 home games every year. Which to play the schedule you want them to would be required.

i don't care who they play in the slightest. my only point i've tried to make is you can't get rewarded if you don't play a tough schedule. if they can't, they can't. fine. but they can't then turn around and demand a big bowl.

[hi_im_god]

people, please!

if you got rid of the bowl system and installed a playoff, we'd all miss 6-7 ucla play against an illinois team that's lost 6 games in a row going into the fired coaches bowl.

let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

people, please!

if you got rid of the bowl system and installed a playoff, we'd all miss 6-7 ucla play against an illinois team that's lost 6 games in a row going into the fired coaches bowl.

let's not get ahead of ourselves.

it'll never happen tho.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

Garbage, I tell you, GARBAGE!!!!!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

people, please!

if you got rid of the bowl system and installed a playoff, we'd all miss 6-7 ucla play against an illinois team that's lost 6 games in a row going into the fired coaches bowl.

let's not get ahead of ourselves.

a Playoff system wouldnt mean the elimination of the bowl system