LSU vs Bama - Page 13

Cannon Shell · #**241** 12-06-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who cares about Boise St? They are garbage and they play garbage. If there was a playoff I would rather see teams like Va Tech and Wisconsin in over Boise St.

Did you catch the Ok State score?

slotdirt · #**242** 12-06-2011, 10:09 PM

I won't be watching a second of the national "championship" game, but I do hope it ends in an Alabama victory. Not because I prefer Alabama - I most certainly do not - but because that's the only way we're going to get a split national championship and folks re-examining the bowl system. We're looking at you, B1G and Pac whatever you are now.

Danzig · #**243** 12-06-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I won't be watching a second of the national "championship" game, but I do hope it ends in an Alabama victory. Not because I prefer Alabama - I most certainly do not - but because that's the only way we're going to get a split national championship and folks re-examining the bowl system. We're looking at you, B1G and Pac whatever you are now.

no one is going to re-examine anything because there is too much money involved in the current system. unless that changes, nothing else will.

Cannon Shell · #**244** 12-06-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

no one is going to re-examine anything because there is too much money involved in the current system. unless that changes, nothing else will.

Actually they are leaving a ton of money on the table. A playoff would be far more lucratitive than the BCS. The thing is that the people who make the decisions are corrupt and laughingly so. Can you imagine what the ratings would be for games that actually meant something as opposed to last weekend when the conference championships were fairly meaningless? Just look at some of these BCS bowls this year?
Outside of the Rose and Fiesta bowls which are interesting matchups the others are fairly embarrassing. #13 Michigan versus #11 Va Tech? #23 WV versus #15 Clemson?
40% of BCS bowls dont even have a top 10 team.

think about this 1st round-Hell you could reward the higher seeds by making these home games
LSU vs Va Tech
Alabama vs TCU
Ok State vs Baylor
Stanford vs Clemson
Oregon vs Michigan
Arkansas vs Michigan State
Boise st vs Kansas state
Wisconsin vs South Carolina

Assume that the higher seeds win all the games
2nd round
LSU vs Wisconsin (Outback)
Alabama vs Boise State (Orange)
Ok State vs Arkansas (Cotton)
Stanford vs Oregon (Rose)

LSU vs Stanford (Fiesta)
Alabama vs ok State (Sugar)

LSU vs Alabama

You dont think that series of games to get to LSU/Alabama wouldnt be 50 times more lucratitive? Oh yeah but they would have to share the money, unlike the way the system is set up now...

RockHardTen1985 · #**245** 12-06-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

who exactly isn't garbage?? they are all garbage. LSU included. let's see, VA TEch who Boise ST beat last year, and Wisconsin who TCU beat last year. Great exacta!!

A nice, fair 8 team playoff would be.... Major conference winners plus 2 at large teams. You want to make it ,10,12 then you have a board/commitee like NCAA. A team like Baylor could drop 50 on any team on any given day. USC is playing great, maybe these type of teams could be voted in.

LSU
Bama
Stanford
Wisconsin
OK ST
Oregon
Va Tech
Clemson

Cannon Shell · #**246** 12-06-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

A nice, fair 8 team playoff would be.... Major conference winners plus 2 at large teams. You want to make it ,10,12 then you have a board/commitee like NCAA. A team like Baylor could drop 50 on any team on any given day. USC is playing great, maybe these type of teams could be voted in.

LSU
Bama
Stanford
Wisconsin
OK ST
Oregon
Va Tech
Clemson

Va Tech? They just lost 38-10 and are ranked 17th
USC is on probation

BigBlue · #**247** 12-06-2011, 11:01 PM

Seems like this is one thing we could all rally around President Obama on. In 2008, he said

"I think any sensible person would say that if you've got a bunch of teams who play throughout the season, and many of them have one loss or two losses, there's no clear decisive winner that we should be creating a playoff system. Eight teams. That would be three rounds, to determine a national champion. It would add three extra weeks to the season. You could trim back on the regular season. I don't know any serious fan of college football who has disagreed with me on this. So, I'm gonna throw my weight around a little bit. I think it's the right thing to do."

RockHardTen1985 · #**248** 12-06-2011, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Did you catch the Ok State score?

OK St is not good. They lost as a 31 point favorite. That alone should make them ineligable for a National Title shot.

RockHardTen1985 · #**249** 12-06-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Va Tech? They just lost 38-10 and are ranked 17th
USC is on probation

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Cannon Shell · #**250** 12-06-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OK St is not good. They lost as a 31 point favorite. That alone should make them ineligable for a National Title shot.

You are hopeless.

Cannon Shell · #**251** 12-06-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Va Tech stinks. What dfference does it make if they were undefeated, they are ineligible

GPK · #**252** 12-06-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its an example. Va Tech was highly ranked all year. Plus they are my team. I know what USC is on, but they also beat Oregon.

Just when I was starting to have high hopes for you. I hear enough foolish talk from everyone around here about how great they are.

RockHardTen1985 · #**253** 12-06-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are hopeless.

Because I think OK ST sucks? Thanks Chuck.

RockHardTen1985 · #**254** 12-06-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Just when I was starting to have high hopes for you. I hear enough foolish talk from everyone around here about how great they are.

Clearly I was messing around, thats why I put in the because they are my team part. Im not joking about OK St though. Why should a team who lost as a 31 point favorite be allowed to play in the National Championship game?

RockHardTen1985 · #**255** 12-06-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Va Tech stinks. What dfference does it make if they were undefeated, they are ineligible

The bottom line is we both agree there should be a playoff... Then my stupid way of making a playoff and your brillant way would eventually be decided on the field. Right?

Cannon Shell · #**256** 12-06-2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Because I think OK ST sucks? Thanks Chuck.

Because you ignore 11 other games to prop up your theory that they are overrated. They wiped out a bunch of pretty good teams including Oklahoma in a game where you said they had no shot.

RockHardTen1985 · #**257** 12-06-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because you ignore 11 other games to prop up your theory that they are overrated. They wiped out a bunch of pretty good teams including Oklahoma in a game where you said they had no shot.

I liked Oklahoma and bet them. Just like I bet Baylor against OK ST. I was wrong. My problem is overall the Big 12 or whatever its called was down. Texas, OU and Baylor all had multiple losses. Do you really think OK ST would be within 10 points of LSU or Bama? Im not an SEC homer at all, but I just think this year those 2 teams are much better then OK ST. I think OK ST would struggle with Stanford.

Cannon Shell · #**258** 12-06-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The bottom line is we both agree there should be a playoff... Then my stupid way of making a playoff and your brillant way would eventually be decided on the field. Right?

I didnt say your way was stupid or mine brilliant just that you cant include the 17th ranked team that just lost by 28 in an 8 team playoff. But yes a playoff has almost no downside.

RockHardTen1985 · #**259** 12-06-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I didnt say your way was stupid or mine brilliant just that you cant include the 17th ranked team that just lost by 28 in an 8 team playoff. But yes a playoff has almost no downside.

I said because they are my team, I was just messing around. Before the ACC championship game I did think they were playing really well though. I have a problem with Frank Bemer. He always seems to lose the big games. Im sick of him.

Cannon Shell · #**260** 12-06-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I liked Oklahoma and bet them. Just like I bet Baylor against OK ST. I was wrong. My problem is overall the Big 12 or whatever its called was down. Texas, OU and Baylor all had multiple losses. Do you really think OK ST would be within 10 points of LSU or Bama? Im not an SEC homer at all, but I just think this year those 2 teams are much better then OK ST. I think OK ST would struggle with Stanford.

The Big 10 was down, the Big East was down, the Pac 10 was down, etc. They beat the **** out of Baylor 59-24 who you like. They put up 52 against K State who is a top 10 team. They beat OK 44-10 when they were ranked in the top 10. They played 3 games all season that they didnt dominate. How many teams didnt have multiple losses?

You can have another chance to lose money betting against them against Stanford