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Old 05-13-2009, 05:39 PM
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wow post 13.... the lucky number... wonder how much this hurts her chances? Maybe she is naturally fast enough to not be hurt by it? Just wide the first turn at least.. correct?

Also, no way Mine That Bird goes off at 6-1
Baffert just said that he thought the post was a good thing for RA
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:44 PM
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about 23 seconds to the first turn, plenty of time to settle
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:46 PM
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Not necessarily. They start at basically the top of the stretch, so she should have plenty of time to get over.

ok cool... and she seems to have so much natural speed that she should be okay by then HOPEFULLY!!!
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:47 PM
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alright, my fortune cookie today said:

"the only safe way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket"

lucky numbers: 1,10,13,36,37,40

take the 1,10,13 to the bank....
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:51 PM
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I think this is the most facinating race in a long time:

1. Does RA run away with the race taking on the boys - I don't think so
2. Is MTB a one race wonder or is the turn around warranted based on the one run change and Borel - I think better than expected but won't win
3. Do the horses that did not fire in the Derby come back to show the form that many thought? - Possible for FF
4. Can Big Drama control the race. Everyone's talking about it so I say no.
5. At first look it appears there will be a bunch of horses stalking. Who moves first? Not sure, but I'm starting to think a horse will close from off the pace and I'm going with TERRAIN!

Should be a great race.

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Old 05-13-2009, 05:56 PM
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ok cool... and she seems to have so much natural speed that she should be okay by then HOPEFULLY!!!
Hopefully this keeps her odds above 2-1.
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:58 PM
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alright, my fortune cookie today said:

"the only safe way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket"

lucky numbers: 1,10,13,36,37,40

take the 1,10,13 to the bank....
Speaking of numbers.... didnt the # of last years derby... also be the same winning # as the preakness ? Or the year before.. ..

crazy 8's ?
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:01 PM
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Speaking of numbers.... didnt the # of last years derby... also be the same winning # as the preakness ? Or the year before.. ..

crazy 8's ?
3 years ago, Barbaro was 8 in the Derby, Bernardini 8 in the preakness, and Jazil 8 in the Belmont
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:03 PM
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about 23 seconds to the first turn, plenty of time to settle
settle yes but I imagine the other riders keep her out at least in the 3 path.
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:05 PM
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Bookend exacta possible here....
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:38 PM
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Was just watching ESPN and Hank Goldberg said that Big Brown won the Preakness from the outside post. Is my memory awful or is Hank Greenberg just a bumbling fool -- much like most sportscasters on ESPN?
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Old 05-13-2009, 06:44 PM
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Was just watching ESPN and Hank Goldberg said that Big Brown won the Preakness from the outside post. Is my memory awful or is Hank Greenberg just a bumbling fool -- much like most sportscasters on ESPN?
Hank Greenberg's been dead for 22 years, but Hank Goldberg is a bit of a bumbling fool. . . Brownie broke from post 7 of 13 in last year's Preakness - outside post in the FLA Derby and KY derby, though. . .

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Old 05-13-2009, 06:54 PM
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Hank Greenberg's been dead for 22 years, but Hank Goldberg is a bit of a bumbling fool. . . Brownie broke from post 7 of 13 in last year's Derby - outside post in the FLA Derby and KY derby, though. . .

Also called her Rachel Alexander.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:12 PM
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Hank Greenberg's been dead for 22 years, but Hank Goldberg is a bit of a bumbling fool. . . Brownie broke from post 7 of 13 in last year's Derby - outside post in the FLA Derby and KY derby, though. . .
I used both "Goldberg" and "Greenberg" in that post somehow. And I haven't even been drinking today.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:28 PM
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I used both "Goldberg" and "Greenberg" in that post somehow. And I haven't even been drinking today.
Don't worry, he probably did enough today for the both of you.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:33 PM
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I used both "Goldberg" and "Greenberg" in that post somehow. And I haven't even been drinking today.
That's ok I said Derby when I meant Preakness so I guess neither of us can talk. . .
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:19 PM
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Whats going on with FF is he doing ok, how is his bad hoof.... havnt heard anything all week
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:15 PM
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Whats going on with FF is he doing ok, how is his bad hoof.... havnt heard anything all week
his 'bad hoof' is just fine, and he's running saturday. well...he'll be in the gate..
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:16 AM
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Phil's Expected Odds:
Rachel Alexandra 2-1
Mine That Bird 4-1
Pioneerof The Nile 7-1
Big Drama 9-1
Papa Clem 10-1
Musket Man 10-1
Fresian Fire 10-1
General Quarters 20-1
Take the Points 30-1
Terrain 30-1
Flying Private 50-1
Luv Gov 50-1
Tone it Down 50-1
I think we'll see something close to Phil's 9-1 on Big Drama. Bodog has been offering 20-1 all day, SportsInteraction is offering 18-1. When TheGreek put its odds up tonight, it offered 10.15-1, same as for Mine That Bird and Musket Man.

Here's my fair odds line, assuming a dry track:

PP# Horse My line
1 Big Drama 5
2 Mine That Bird 12
3 Musket Man 12
4 Luv Gov 100
5 Friesen Fire 15
6 Terrain 50
7 Papa Clem 10
8 General Quarters 30
9 Pioneerof the Nile 15
10 Flying Private 70
11 Take the Points 40
12 Tone It Down 200
13 Rachel Alexandra 9-5


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Old 05-14-2009, 08:56 AM
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Do folks like Big Drama even with the inside post? Also, not that it really matters, but it's supposed to rain on and off in this area straight through Saturday. 80 and t-storms expected.
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