Vikings Love in Vegas - Page 14

dalakhani · #**261** 01-17-2010, 04:19 PM

my all time favorite thread!

horseofcourse · #**262** 01-18-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Last 4 games last year....

Tavarias Jackson 57 of 89 740 yards 8 touchdowns 1 interception 115.4 quarterback rating...

Brett Favre 75 of 132 764 yards 2 touchdowns 8 interceptions 53.3 quarterback rating.

You'd have a real hard time convicing me that Favre is better than Jackson right now.

greatest post ever....EVER!!!! EVER!!!!!

SniperSB23 · #**263** 01-25-2010, 11:46 AM

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

timmgirvan · #**264** 01-25-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

I agree that Favre had a tremendous year...hopefully he won't string out the Vikes like he did last year. They came very close to winning that game, but there were plenty of miscues by both teams. I think Childress will be back, but he better get an infusion of creativity before next season.

GBBob · #**265** 01-25-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

MaTH716 · #**266** 01-25-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

A dismal failure.
They were the better team yesterday and basically gave the game away. Between the turnovers and the terrible coaching they pretty much gave the game to the Saints. I don't think he will be canned, but I think he should be. What happened there in the last 2 1/2 minutes is unforgiveable.
I thought Favre played great yesterday. Took a beating and made some great throws. As far as the pick goes, yes it was a bad decision but the terrible coaching put him in a spot where he needed to get them back into FG range. The guy was trying to make a play from a position that the conservative coaching (all of a sudden) and terrible penalty put him into.

horseofcourse · #**267** 01-25-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

"will Favre be back"

since we now get another 6 months of this just like we did in 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005....it was a massive success. Massive. It's already starting, and we all need this "what will Favre do" exercise for our national health. As much as it pains me, Favre was great this year. Great. They were as close to the Super Bowl as you can possibly be.

I honestly don't think you can blame Childress for the 5 turnovers which could have easily been 7 turnovers yesterday.

philcski · #**268** 01-25-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So in the end was the whole Favre saga a giant success, a dismal failure, or somewhere in between? Favre certainly exceeded my expectations and had a really good season leading his team to a first round bye. On the other hand, he didn't get to the Super Bowl, he Favred it in the end costing his team a chance at attempting a game winning FG, and does anyone really believe with their schedule that they wouldn't have been a playoff team without Favre? Now they go into next season with just as uncertain a QB situation as they were in this year. They'll have to endure an offseason of "will Favre be back" and are no closer to knowing whether Travaris Jackson will be a serviceable NFL QB. I tend to think it was more a success than a failure since they made the NFC Championship but once they got Favre it was pretty much Super Bowl or bust so in that respect it was a failure.

Also, do people think Childress will/should be canned? I think he should be, that was one of the most poorly coached games I have ever seen, but I don't think he will be.

Huge success. Favre played great all year and forced a throw because they made a huge blunder with the 12 men in the huddle penalty. If they don't get that penalty, they don't throw on 3rd down, they pick up a couple yards rushing and have a manageable 45 yard field goal for a good kicker to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah it was a Favre moment but my hats off to him, he played great all year. If he stays, Minnesota will be right there next year.

That said, I have a bet with Kevin on the Saints to win the NFC from week 2 so I'm happy to collect and will be rooting for them in the Super Bowl.

SniperSB23 · #**269** 01-25-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

Part of that could just be the schedule. They play the AFC East and NFC East next year (1st and 4th in the Sagarin) as opposed to the AFC North and NFC West (5th and 8th in the Sagarin). That could easily be 2-4 extra losses.

SniperSB23 · #**270** 01-25-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

since we now get another 6 months of this just like we did in 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005....it was a massive success. Massive. It's already starting, and we all need this "what will Favre do" exercise for our national health. As much as it pains me, Favre was great this year. Great. They were as close to the Super Bowl as you can possibly be.

I honestly don't think you can blame Childress for the 5 turnovers which could have easily been 7 turnovers yesterday.

I can certainly blame him for putting Percy Harvin in at RB instead of Chester Taylor when Harvin coughed it up.

horseofcourse · #**271** 01-25-2010, 12:04 PM

I don't get the criticism of Childress yesterday. Peterson ran for 125 yesterday....they should have run him on 1st and 2nd down from the 33 that last drive. He gets 5 yards, it's easy Longwell range...easy. Perhaps the 12 men was his fault, but the two runs on 1st and 2nd down was absolutely the right thing to do.

horseofcourse · #**272** 01-25-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I can certainly blame him for putting Percy Harvin in at RB instead of Chester Taylor when Harvin coughed it up.

I could care less about that. That's like saying he should never, ever play Peterson because he is a fumble machine, and playing him is a coaching error. I have no problem with Childress trying to get the ball to Harvin any way he can.

Antitrust32 · #**273** 01-25-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think Favre had an incredible year and elevated a questionable rookie (Harvin) and two mediocre receivers ( Berrian and Rice) to career years. The throws he made and the leadership he brought to that team was the reason for their success and if he retires next year (and I hope he drags that decision out forever), the Vikings will be lucky to be .500.

I also think that Childress' timeout management and play calling in that game, and specifically the 4th quarter, needs to be talked about. And who takes responsibility for 12 men in the huddle? As bad as Favre's pick was, it should never have come down to them needing to throw on third down.

Percy Harvin didnt do anything this year that he didnt do last year at FL.

He was by far the best football player on the field for FL's 2008 championship, and underrated in the draft because of behavior issues and maybe a lack of wonderlick smarts.

He's the only player on the Vikings that I like!

GBBob · #**274** 01-25-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Percy Harvin didnt do anything this year that he didnt do last year at FL.

He was by far the best football player on the field for FL's 2008 championship, and underrated in the draft because of behavior issues and maybe a lack of wonderlick smarts.

He's the only player on the Vikings that I like!

He had a lot of question marks though going in and could have easily gone either way I think

Antitrust32 · #**275** 01-25-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

He had a lot of question marks though going in and could have easily gone either way I think

I think he was a steal for the Vikings.

Would love him on the Eagles though I am plenty satisfied with Maclin and wouldnt trade Maclin for Harvin.. though I find them very similar.

GBBob · #**276** 01-25-2010, 01:15 PM

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I think he was a steal for the Vikings.

Would love him on the Eagles though I am plenty satisfied with Maclin and wouldnt trade Maclin for Harvin.. though I find them very similar.

After the season, absolutely a steal

Danzig · #**277** 01-25-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Huge success. Favre played great all year and forced a throw because they made a huge blunder with the 12 men in the huddle penalty. If they don't get that penalty, they don't throw on 3rd down, they pick up a couple yards rushing and have a manageable 45 yard field goal for a good kicker to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah it was a Favre moment but my hats off to him, he played great all year. If he stays, Minnesota will be right there next year.
That said, I have a bet with Kevin on the Saints to win the NFC from week 2 so I'm happy to collect and will be rooting for them in the Super Bowl.

i agree.
hope the saints win for my husbands sake...but the colts are going to be harder to beat than the vikes.

timmgirvan · #**278** 01-25-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree.
hope the saints win for my husbands sake...but the colts are going to be harder to beat than the vikes.

true story....colts won't make mistakes on O/D to the tune of the Vikes.
I like both teams...should be a great game.

SCUDSBROTHER · #**279** 01-25-2010, 01:42 PM

see post below

BTW....Leave the SIZZURP (Codeine Cough syrup + soda + a jolly rancher) as a brotha' thing (just saying.) Everything can't be multi-cultural.

SCUDSBROTHER · #**280** 01-25-2010, 01:45 PM

1) Lost the toss going into OT.

2) Shouldn't have that stupid rule (1st team to score wins the game.)

3) Kicker should of knocked it out of the end zone (instead, a tired team has to cover a return.)

4) Really bad P.I. call in OT (really points out why OT shouldn't be won by the 1st team to get a field goal.)

5) Didn't get the call on a a questionable catch in OT. I've seen that go either way. To me, it's a catch, but often it's not (to them.)

6) Some fool didn't have his hands in the proper position to receive the hand-off from Farve (after the Bush Blunder.) Yep, there's that 3 points that turned out to be rather necessary.

7) Should you really expect a Q.B. to be able to win a game when his team is not taking care of the football at all?

8) How about giving the Saints some credit for pounding him? It's pretty predictable that a hurt Q.B. will be one who makes an important mistake. Fact is he got them to a tie, and then he never got a chance to play in O.T. He made some really nice passes to get them into Saints territory on that last drive. He played a lot better than I expected. The rest of his team played a little worse than I expected. Saints didn't play very well. If they cover like that, then Manning will destroy them.