The Michael Gill/Penn National Riders Saga

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/gi...ng-of-misfits/

my jaw dropped when i got to the part about the piece of wood with the electrical cord. that guy should've been banned for life.


“The order is for nothing,” Gill said. “They can’t say it’s because of breakdowns or a test. They don’t have a reason, so they come up this rule, which basically means they can throw anyone off the racetrack at any time, with no reason at all.

“This is why I have to get out. I knew how dirty the politics were.”


yeah, cry me a river...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/gi...ng-of-misfits/

I wish he would marry my first wife and send her to Cole Norman for a tune up..

This Gill is some P.O.S. Geez he cant even cheat correctly.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

my jaw dropped when i got to the part about the piece of wood with the electrical cord. that guy should've been banned for life.

Delahoussaye wasn't even one of the 50 best trainers racing at Mountaineer Park when he was racing there a couple years ago.

If his piece of wood with an electrical cord method was any good .. he wouldn't have been such a hopeless bum trainer for pretty much forever.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by freddymo

This Gill is some P.O.S. Geez he cant even cheat correctly.

Freddy ... he's down a good ways on the list of best cheats who start horses there.

I bet a Juan Serey there the other day.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

For the record ... I did a little research ... and I can name 20 different horses and counting owned by Maggi Moss that broke down in a race - (all were unable to finish their race and obviously never raced again. I'm not talking about being eased and racing again - like more than a few of Gill's have recently)

Again - I like Moss ... and even though she came across as a monumental hypocrite in her letter .. you have to keep in mind that she employs Steph Beattie and there is no telling what kind of stuff Beattie might have said to her.

I think it's very likely that horses owned by Maggie Moss break down at a higher rate per start than Gill owned horses have ... although Gill has certainly closed the gap steadily since hiring Delahoussaye.

Having Gill (have people figured out yet that he's an owner and not a trainer?) banned from a racetrack for an obvious statistical anomaly regarding horses breaking down ... that is about as disgraceful as it gets.

[Fearless Leader]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

For the record ... I did a little research ... and I can name 20 different horses and counting owned by Maggi Moss that broke down in a race - (all were unable to finish their race and obviously never raced again. I'm not talking about being eased and racing again - like more than a few of Gill's have recently)

Again - I like Moss ... and even though she came across as a monumental hypocrite in her letter .. you have to keep in mind that she employs Steph Beattie and there is no telling what kind of stuff Beattie might have said to her.

I think it's very likely that horses owned by Maggie Moss break down at a higher rate per start than Gill owned horses have ... although Gill has certainly closed the gap steadily since hiring Delahoussaye.

Having Gill (have people figured out yet that he's an owner and not a trainer?) banned from a racetrack for an obvious statistical anomaly regarding horses breaking down ... that is about as disgraceful as it gets.

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

For the record ... I did a little research ... and I can name 20 different horses and counting owned by Maggi Moss that broke down in a race - (all were unable to finish their race and obviously never raced again. I'm not talking about being eased and racing again - like more than a few of Gill's have recently)

Again - I like Moss ... and even though she came across as a monumental hypocrite in her letter .. you have to keep in mind that she employs Steph Beattie and there is no telling what kind of stuff Beattie might have said to her.

I think it's very likely that horses owned by Maggie Moss break down at a higher rate per start than Gill owned horses have ... although Gill has certainly closed the gap steadily since hiring Delahoussaye.

Having Gill (have people figured out yet that he's an owner and not a trainer?) banned from a racetrack for an obvious statistical anomaly regarding horses breaking down ... that is about as disgraceful as it gets.

Yes.

Plus everyone knows Gill was going to use Casual Conflict's sawed off leg as a walking stick after "science" was finished with it.

Some people just don't understand.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by paulo537

Yes.

Plus everyone knows Gill was going to use Casual Conflict's sawed off leg as a walking stick after "science" was finished with it.

Some people just don't understand.

Don't understand what?

Casual Conflict was 7 years ago at a track thousands of miles away - and in no way relates to anything that has happened at Penn National recently.

Also - Gill was not the one who went into the dumpster and cut the leg off - a vet was.

But hey, Adamo has 11 fines for entering a few of the army of horses in his care for races they aren't elidigble for and taking a fine to scratch. Pitchforks.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/gi...ng-of-misfits/

If you read all the comments by the readers,Ray needs to change the name of his site to the PETA report.There would be no such thing as thoroughbred racing if any of those people had anything to do with it.

[Left Bank]

They won't ride his horses.Now others are buying them.Will they still ride them?This is turning out to be a vendetta against Mr.Gill.Thanks to all the crying and bitching,PETA now has their nose in it.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-penn-national

[rkinnin]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Having Gill (have people figured out yet that he's an owner and not a trainer?) banned from a racetrack for an obvious statistical anomaly regarding horses breaking down ... that is about as disgraceful as it gets.

It reminds me of when the MLB banned Marge Schott from going to her own Cinci Reds games.

[Scav]

I wonder if Gill would accept a complete buyout for say, 20 cents on the dollar

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

I wonder if Gill would accept a complete buyout for say, 20 cents on the dollar

He can get good money for the shockwave machine those are in demand at Penn Nat.

[Metal Man]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Where are all those horses going to go?

They will be bought by the same people that banned M. Gil.

Its amazing that they will run them and suddenly the soreness has gone away.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Some of the weakest ones he gave away have run relatively well at Sam Houston.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

This one was supposed to be one of the worst of his worst .... seems like it was $1 well spent by his new connections because the horse just won a race at Sam Houston on Saturday and looks like a nice open nickle claimer.

http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=20100206&RN=5

[BellaGena Stable]

Are you sure he bought this one for a $1? I added this horse to my watch list back in the summer as a potential claim but after seeing steph had him and how much Gill ran him it wasnt practical. You could see by his form he needed a rest after running 13 times and it was only October. If he got him for a $1 that was a good deal. He just needed some rest.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

You think a 6% trainer at Sam Houston paid any money for a horse that just was unable to even finish a 5k claiming race - and was beaten a combined 56.5 lengths in the two starts before that?

A horse that she would have had to ship thousands of miles on her own dime...to run for piss poor purses?

Do I know for a fact that the horse was sold for $1? No. But, I think it's pretty obvious the horse was a giveaway.

I thought I remembered Gill saying he gave away his sore and bad horses for $1 and a lot of them went to a Sam Houston buyer... and he raced only the ones in good shape or good form.

[BellaGena Stable]

no doubt you might be right but just looking at the form henry witt has horses that come in from HOU from the trainer out there. Witt has a couple different trainers in PA. Good for him if he got him for a buck. To look at Dippi Trippi he looked and walked sound but he just needed a well needed break. He also was running in open company which didnt help him any. Gill claimed him and ran him back in like 6-7 days.

[Sightseek]

Gill: Racing Needs to Admit What's Wrong

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...it-whats-wrong