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Old 07-09-2020, 01:46 PM
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Sure. It’s an easy bet for you because you know I’m a nice guy and won’t make anything negative for you. You’d have a field day with mine. It’s a bet.
Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:57 PM
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Cool...I’m open other other bets that aren’t as easy for me. Let me know.
$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:26 PM
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$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other. To put it even more in your favor, how about we make it harder for me to win. If both Swiss Skydiver AND Venetian Harbor don’t win, I’ll pay you $100. If both do, you pay me $150. Of course, if either doesn’t start or if a rider falls off, bet is cancelled.
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:16 PM
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We have some gambling there fellows!! Swiss is going to have to be real good to win this one imo.
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:19 PM
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:36 PM
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$100 bet. We can go through Steve since I’m sure we don’t trust each other.
I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:44 PM
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Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:51 PM
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I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.
You were option B lol
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:05 PM
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If you play this right, you could literally not lose. Excellent bet on your part.
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:55 PM
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Trying to understand why Jolie Olimpica is the 2nd choice and 5/2. I know she’s good on turf but she’s never gone this distance, pace scenario does not seem to benefit her, and there is at least a case to be made for some of the others over her.

Or am I overthinking and Rushing Fall is an easy winner here?
That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are
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Old 07-09-2020, 09:58 PM
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I can't speak for Dahoss, though my sense is that he would agree, but I can't think of a person here that I don't know personally that I would trust more than you to pay.

Steve, on the other hand, is a bit shady.
A bit?

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Old 07-09-2020, 10:37 PM
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That’s a fantastic race. I doubt Jolie ends up going off 2nd choice. Bad line IMO. She’s good and she’s got a big reputation but Toinette should be 2nd choice.

I have a ton of respect for Rushing Fall but I don’t like her Saturday. She had everything go her way last time and I don’t see that happening here. I’m using Juliet Foxtrot, who should’ve gotten a lot out of her last, Toinette and Altea. Altea is a bit of a chase on my part as l’ve bet her the last three times and she should’ve won last time. She’s a notch below the best in here but is due for some luck. We both are
I can’t ignore Rushing Fall but like Juliet Foxtrot and Toinette as well. I tried to talk myself into Altea and Mucho Unusual but not sure I can.
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Old 07-10-2020, 06:04 PM
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I don’t remember if this was discussed on the board...and I know it’s very common for people to incorrectly claim a golden rail, but did rail/inside horses have an advantage on FL Derby day? Shivaree at 80-1, Identifier at 60-1, Just Whistle at 24-1, Swiss Skydiver at 9-1, Bajan Girl at above 100-1, Wind of Change at 9-1, Yorkton at 20-1 all got inside trips and outran their odds, some hitting career best Beyers. A few did not run very well the next time out.

Obviously Swiss Skydiver has acquitted herself and a horse like Yorkton is pretty nice...but I’m trying to figure out if a horse like Shivaree is worth consideration given what looks like a bit of a bias in his biggest race and the likely pace scenario in the Bluegrass, he seems like a toss from exotics unless the track ends up being favorable conditions for him tomorrow.
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Old 07-11-2020, 05:55 PM
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Your money will be on the way soon.
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Old 07-11-2020, 06:36 PM
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If you want to see track records broken at Keeneland I guess they need to move the meet permanently to July.

Four track or course records set today and the Blue Grass and Madison were just a tick off the 9f and 7f marks respectively. Also a 2yo maiden and an allowance horse were each about a second off the track records for 6f and 6.5f.

Or did they install new surfaces and there were no prior records?
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:48 AM
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Your money will be on the way soon.
For the record, King Glorious is a stand up guy. We agreed upon a place to donate the bet money and he made the donation last night.

Without getting too preachy, I understand these are tough times for everyone but if you have the means there are a lot of very worthy horse related places that could use the help.
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Old 07-12-2020, 02:36 PM
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For the record, King Glorious is a stand up guy. We agreed upon a place to donate the bet money and he made the donation last night.

Without getting too preachy, I understand these are tough times for everyone but if you have the means there are a lot of very worthy horse related places that could use the help.
I have a pay pal account that is as worthy any. Shall I dm the details?
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Old 07-12-2020, 03:54 PM
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I have a pay pal account that is as worthy any. Shall I dm the details?
I’m sure you got your PPP Cheese. $RINO
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:52 PM
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Old 07-13-2020, 04:00 PM
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