8/26 (SAR): 148th Travers Day (5 G1's, G2 undercard)

[wac]

thank 10pt, much appreciated. forgot that he wasnt a 3 yr old as now that i think about it im pretty sure i lost money on him last year during the triple crown races, just thought he looked pretty good winning the sprint race tht he was in up there earlier in the meet.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by wac

i remember seeing Whitmore run earlier this meet at Sar and thought that he for sure would run in the Kings Bishop?? . Any word on what he has planned next?

Possibly the Delmar Futurity. Distance should be perfect for him.

[Kasept]

Anticipated Field

Always Dreaming (John Velazquez)
Cloud Computing (Javier Castellano)
Fayeq (Luis Saez)
Girvin (Robby Albarado)
Giuseppe the Great (Tyler Gaffalione)
Good Samaritan (Joel Rosario)
Gunnevera (Edgard Zayas)
Irap (Mario Gutierrez)
Lookin At Lee (Ricardo Santana Jr.)
McCraken (Brian Hernandez Jr.)
Tapwrit (Jose Ortiz)
West Coast (Mike Smith).

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Anticipated Field

Always Dreaming (John Velazquez)
Cloud Computing (Javier Castellano)
Fayeq (Luis Saez)
Girvin (Robby Albarado)
Giuseppe the Great (Tyler Gaffalione)
Good Samaritan (Joel Rosario)
Gunnevera (Edgard Zayas)
Irap (Mario Gutierrez)
Lookin At Lee (Ricardo Santana Jr.)
McCraken (Brian Hernandez Jr.)
Tapwrit (Jose Ortiz)
West Coast (Mike Smith).

Just trying to recall more competitive travers races than this one...last year was pretty good as well on paper going on but not sure this one doesnt have more horses in good form.

[RolloTomasi]

Arnaud Delacour seems to be coming into the weekend with a hot hand for the Forego (Divining Rod) and Allen Jerkens (No Dozing). Not sure if Divining Rod will make the quick turnaround in 2 weeks from his last race, but love the parallel cut-backs for both horses and the twin small field 7 furlong minor stakes tuneups at Laurel for these Grade 1s.

Divining Rod was on the cusp of breaking out last year when he gave the much-heralded but ultimately ill-fated Connect all he could handle in the Cigar Mile. If he pulls this off he and Accelerate will keep the BC Dirt Mile legit for at least another year.

No Dozing has a lot to prove, especially against the bunch lining up for the Allen Jerkens, but he's unbeaten at less than a mile (3 for 3) and at the very least he will do enough to warrant summer book favorite for the Discovery Handicap at Aqueduct.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Just trying to recall more competitive travers races than this one...last year was pretty good as well on paper going on but not sure this one doesnt have more horses in good form.

The Will Take Charge, Colonel John, and Sea Hero Travers were all fairly loaded if not featuring any world-beaters (much like this race).

There are several in form here, but not a whole lot of consistency unfortunately. The horses coming from the second tier of the division seem to be the sharpest. At this point, the Classic winners look about as dead in the water as the 3 from last year.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The Will Take Charge, Colonel John, and Sea Hero Travers were all fairly loaded if not featuring any world-beaters (much like this race).

There are several in form here, but not a whole lot of consistency unfortunately. The horses coming from the second tier of the division seem to be the sharpest. At this point, the Classic winners look about as dead in the water as the 3 from last year.

Taprit is the only one I would want, and thats if he is well overlooked in the odds.

I am basically going to play the race being against certain horses and use several in the pick 3 or 4.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Arnaud Delacour seems to be coming into the weekend with a hot hand for the Forego (Divining Rod) and Allen Jerkens (No Dozing). Not sure if Divining Rod will make the quick turnaround in 2 weeks from his last race, but love the parallel cut-backs for both horses and the twin small field 7 furlong minor stakes tuneups at Laurel for these Grade 1s.

Divining Rod was on the cusp of breaking out last year when he gave the much-heralded but ultimately ill-fated Connect all he could handle in the Cigar Mile. If he pulls this off he and Accelerate will keep the BC Dirt Mile legit for at least another year.

No Dozing has a lot to prove, especially against the bunch lining up for the Allen Jerkens, but he's unbeaten at less than a mile (3 for 3) and at the very least he will do enough to warrant summer book favorite for the Discovery Handicap at Aqueduct.

He's a very solid trainer, but i think both of those horses are in deep.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Arnaud Delacour seems to be coming into the weekend with a hot hand for the Forego (Divining Rod) and Allen Jerkens (No Dozing). Not sure if Divining Rod will make the quick turnaround in 2 weeks from his last race, but love the parallel cut-backs for both horses and the twin small field 7 furlong minor stakes tuneups at Laurel for these Grade 1s.

Divining Rod was on the cusp of breaking out last year when he gave the much-heralded but ultimately ill-fated Connect all he could handle in the Cigar Mile. If he pulls this off he and Accelerate will keep the BC Dirt Mile legit for at least another year.

No Dozing has a lot to prove, especially against the bunch lining up for the Allen Jerkens, but he's unbeaten at less than a mile (3 for 3) and at the very least he will do enough to warrant summer book favorite for the Discovery Handicap at Aqueduct.

BC mile? Isn't that Mor Spirit's long term goal?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

BC mile? Isn't that Mor Spirit's long term goal?

Considering Mor Spirit's last work was 10 days ago and was 70/70 I don't know how much of a factor he is going to be the rest of this year.

[Kasept]

The Travers field, in post order and with riders and morning-line odds:

1. Cloud Computing (Castellano, 8-1)
2. Giuseppe the Great (Tyler Gaffalione, 20-1)
3. West Coast (Mike Smith, 4-1)
4. Tapwrit (Jose Ortiz, 7-2)
5. Good Samaritan (Joel Rosario, 5-1)
6. Girvin (Robby Albarado, 10-1)
7. Always Dreaming (John Velazquez, 6-1)
8. Lookin At Lee (Ricardo Santana Jr., 30-1)
9. McCraken (Brian Hernandez Jr., 12-1)
10. Irap (Mario Gutierrez, 8-1)
11. Gunnevera (Edgard Zayas, 20-1)
12. Fayeq (Luis Saez, 30-1)

[cakes44]

7 horses that ran in the KD are in. That has to be some kind of record for the Travers.

[SniperSB23]

Derby, Preakness, Belmont winners, top 2 from the Dandy and Haskell, Derby runner up, and by post time none of them will likely wind up the favorite. Not the fastest Travers field ever assembled but certainly has to be the best in terms of recent top two finishes in top races.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Derby, Preakness, Belmont winners, top 2 from the Dandy and Haskell, Derby runner up, and by post time none of them will likely wind up the favorite. Not the fastest Travers field ever assembled but certainly has to be the best in terms of recent top two finishes in top races.

The 1987 Travers didn't have the runner-up in the Jim Dandy (Pledge Card) drawing just the 3rd place finisher (Cryptoclearance) instead. But the field also included the 1-2 finishers from the Whitney (Java Gold and Gulch) with the winners of the Grade 1 American Derby and Grade 1 Swaps thrown in as well. The only classic-placed horse missing was Avie's Copy, otherwise the race would have had the 1-2-3 finishers in all 3 Triple Crown races.

The overall career accomplishments of the field is staggering.

[Secretriat34]

Kentucky Derby II

minus the fluff

Tapwrit, the fav, lost at SAR before, doubt he has a win here,

whereas, Good Samaritan, third in the BCJ Turf - 2016, has all the pedigree he needs to take this years eclipse.

Status: Active Owner(s): WinStar Farm LLC - China Horse Club International Ltd.
Trainer: William I. Mott
Bred: Kentucky (USA) by WinStar Farm LLC
Pedigree: Harlan's Holiday - Pull Dancer by Pulpit(sire of Tapit)

The $1.25 million Travers Stakes on Aug. 26, is expected to attract Always Dreaming, Cloud Computing, Belmont Stakes winner Tapwrit. If all three horses run in Midsummer Derby, it would mark the first time that's happened since Gato del Sol, Aloma's Ruler and Conquistador Cielo dueled in the 1982 Travers, won by Runaway Groom in a surprise.

might as well start painting that canoe white and blue for Winstar

[Secretriat34]

the only other race this year for colts and horses that will be this full is the BCC at Del Mar...which dortmund will win

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

the only other race this year for colts and horses that will be this full is the BCC at Del Mar...which dortmund will win

A little early to be drunk isn't it ?

[Secretriat34]

i can't drink as much as I used to, now only gambling and medical MJ are my only vices, and they, combined, cost enough.

As you get older the drinking and the whoring diminish...poor girls...how will they survive ?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

i can't drink as much as I used to, now only gambling and medical MJ are my only vices, and they, combined, cost enough.

As you get older the drinking and the whoring diminish...poor girls...how will they survive ?

A lot cheaper growing your own

[Secretriat34]

that might be true, and not to sway the thread direction,
but medical grade is the only real weed....
and for $500 you too can get a card...oh...you also need a qualifying medical condition