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04-23-2018, 03:23 PM
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Gronkowski now officially out..
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04-23-2018, 10:24 PM
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3-1 Justify
6-1 Magnum Moon 6-1 Mendelssohn 8-1 Audible 8-1 Bolt d'Oro 8-1 Good Magic 15-1 Vino Rosso 20-1 Enticed 20-1 Flameaway 20-1 Noble Indy 20-1 My Boy Jack 20-1 Quip 30-1 Free Drop Billy 30-1 Gronkowski 30-1 Hofburg 30-1 Solomini 50-1 Bravazo 50-1 Firenze Fire 50-1 Lone Sailor 50-1 Promises Fulfilled Looking at those horses it looks like the fav. will be 3-1 at post. Not sure if it will be Justify though. Big payouts likely on exotics this year.
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04-24-2018, 08:07 AM
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Anyone remember odds or have PP's for Bellamy Road in 2005 Derby? When looking at Justify I can't help but compare the 2. Very fast horses that will take a lot of money but weren't tested yet. Bellamy Road ran pretty well considering the pace and had the lead at the top of the stretch?
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04-24-2018, 08:16 AM
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He ran 3x as a 2yo so I'm not sure he's the best comp. Bodemeister is the best I've got.
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04-24-2018, 08:36 AM
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I know it's not a direct comparison because of when they started racing but I feel like the way the race is going to play out could be similar. Instead of Spanish Chestnut we have Promises Fulfilled to gun it. While i'm not sold he goes 22 and 44 I can't help feel like Romans will have him rolling to give Free Drop Billy something honest to run at.
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04-27-2018, 05:49 PM
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2018 PACE QUADRANTS WITH JAMES SCULLY
ON 1-Promises Fulfilled 1st 2-Justify 2nd 3-Noble Indy 5th 4-Flameaway 6th 5-Mendelssohn 9th NEAR 6-Magnum Moon 10th 7-Good Magic 4th 8-Enticed 11th 9-Bravazo 8th 10-Solomini 20th STALK 11-Vino Rosso 18th 12-Instilled Regard 17th 13-Audible 12th 14-Bolt d'Oro 3rd 15-Firenze Fire 7th OFF 16-Hofburg 16th 17-Free Drop Billy 14th 18-Combatant 13th 19-Lone Sailor 15th 20-My Boy Jack 19th
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04-28-2018, 03:35 AM
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GARY YOUNG'S CLOCKING NOTES
April 27 Audible 12:1 24:1 49:2 gallop out 1.02 Worked in company with National Flag and proved slightly best to mild urging under Javier Castellano. He is a notoriously unwilling worker, but hey, give him credit for knowing practice from game day. Besides, the same could be said for a lot of us. Bottom line is he brings it when it counts and nothing in this work makes me think he won't on Derby Day. Vino Rosso 11:4 23:2 47:1 gallop out 1.00:2 1.13:4 Worked outside of Outplay and these two left the pole running and clipped of sub 12 1/8's of a mile in 3 of the 4 furlongs of the work with Vino edging clear late under Johnny V. I like this colt and though he won't be my top pick, I can definitely see him hitting the board for The Godfather. Magnum Moon 12:2 23:4 47:2 out 1.00:2 Worked inside of stablemate Maraud and proved best under mild urging He seemed rather controllable today but his lack of power steering down the stretch in his last 2 races, particularly in the Arkansas Derby is concerning. It is highly concerning and he most likely can't run crooked in the lane and win this Derby. Lone Sailor 23;4 48 out 1.00:4 Had a serious drill and did respond to urging here. The prep he exits was the least visually appealing in this observer's eyes and he will spend cinco de mayo getting hot and dirty. Wonder Gadot 23:4 48 out 1.00:4 Looked terrific finishing in full stride with a real nice energy to her. This year the Oaks is most likely a showdown between the 2 favorites, but an exacta box comprising of them is highly unlikely to pay your expenses so if you feel like going for value, Gadot could oblige. Post Script Today's Derby works at Churchill Downs were of high caliber colts but 3 time zones away a massive red horse named Justify put in his final Derby prep. This horse is a beast. While this years rendition is light years better than lasts, I have not been shy about the unreal ability this colt has and it's highly unlikely I will pick against him May 5.
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04-28-2018, 07:52 PM
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@DRFPrivman: Luis Contreras gets call on Bravazo..
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04-29-2018, 09:52 PM
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Bolt d'Oro turns in the best Derby work.
Scary good.... https://www.xbtv.com/video/bolt-doro...ril-28th-2018/
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05-01-2018, 10:54 AM
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5/5/18 ~ Kentucky Derby (1 1/4M) Churchill Downs
1. Firenze Fire 39 (Mr. Amore Stable) Jason Servis/Paco Lopez (50-1) 2. Free Drop Billy 44 (Albaugh Family) Dale Romans/Robby Albarado (30-1) 3. Promises Fulfilled 52 (Robert Baron) Dale Romans/Corey Lanarie (30-1) 4. Flameaway-$ 70 (John Oxley) Mark Casse/Jose Lezcano (30-1) 5. Audible 110 (China Horse, Head/Plains, Starlight, WinStar) Todd Pletcher/Javier Castellano (8-1) 6. Good Magic 134 (e Five, Stonestreet) Chad Brown/Jose Ortiz (12-1) 7. Justify 100 (China Horse, Head/Plains, Starlight, WinStar) Bob Baffert/Mike Smith (3-1) 8. Lone Sailor 42 (G M B Racing) Tom Amoss/James Graham (50-1) 9. Hofburg 40 (Juddmonte) Bill Mott/Irad Ortiz Jr. (20-1) 10. My Boy Jack 52 (Don’t Tell My Wife, Monomoy) Keith Desormeaux/Kent Desormeaux (30-1) 11. Bolt d’Oro 104 (Ruis Racing) Mick Ruis/Victor Espinoza (8-1) 12. Enticed 103 (Godolphin) Kiaran McLaughlin/Junior Alvarado (30-1) 13. Bravazo 54 (Calumet Farm) D. Wayne Lukas/Luis Contreras (50-1) 14. Mendelssohn 100 (Coolmore) Aidan O’Brien/Ryan Moore (5-1) 15. Instilled Regard 29 (Oxo Equine/Larry Best) Jerry Hollendorfer/Drayden Van Dyke (50-1) 16. Magnum Moon 150 (Lawana & Robert Low) Todd Pletcher/Luis Saez (6-1) 17. Solomini 54 (Zayat Stables, Coolmore) Bob Baffert/Flavien Prat (30-1) 18. Vino Rosso 107 (Repole, St. Elias) Todd Pletcher/John Velazquez (12-1) 19. Noble Indy 110 (WinStar, Repole) Todd Pletcher/Florent Geroux (12-1) 20. Combatant 32 (Winchell, Willis Horton) Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana (30-1) 21/AE. Blended Citizen-$ 22 (Greg Hall, SAYJAY Racing/Steve Young) Doug O’Neill/Kyle Frey (50-1)
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05-01-2018, 11:43 AM
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Looks like post position draw was good for all the contenders.
Early thoughts A group Magnum Moon- Pletcher is loaded for bear this year and I feel this one is his best. Ran green in last race but still put in a dominating performance and the sky is the limit on this one. Can sit off the pace and run them down on the stretch. Expecting a huge effort and break of the Apollo curse. Audible - Another Pletcher horse with big potential in this race. Not a pace dependent horse as he stalked in one of his wins. However still should get a nice pace setup and be tough in the last quarter. B Group Bolt D'Oro - Horse is one tough sob and continues to throw in triple figure beyers. Leave off your tickets especially exotics at your own risk Vino Rosso - Horse keeps getting better and Pletcher will have him ready. Feel his a slight bit under Moon and Audible but is a threat running late and at 12-1 a nice value play Justify - Horse can win but feel its had three races all go his way and small fields. Baffert gets his horses ready but this will be by far his toughest test with the speed inside and just don't feel the horse can hold on against the other top horses here. Will still be on my ticket as you can't leave Baffert horses off but like others much better. C Group Good Magic - 2-year old champ starting to show flashes and is training very nicely. Going to have to run much better though to beat this field and have mixed feelings about his chances. May add to ticket if I can afford but am siding with others Mendelssohn - Romped his first dirt race but lets face it he didn't beat anything in that race. True wildcard. Feeling he will get caught up in the pace. I always stay away from these invaders in the derby and will here. Will let him beat me.
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Any word on where Salty and Awesome Slew are going to run? I see them both cross-entered.
Thanks in advance Steve!
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05-01-2018, 03:00 PM
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Is there a condensed printable version of the entries with odds?
Simmilar to the one shown in this thread.
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