Weekend Stakes Beyers: Arrogate 115

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Victory Gallop, Wagon Limit, Milwaukee Brew, Festin, Aptitude, Real Quiet, Tejano Run, Unbridled, Turkoman, Pleasant Tap, Pleasantly Perfect...

Loved Victory Gallop. His Whitney vs Behrens is one of my favorites. Talk about premature move.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Loved Victory Gallop. His Whitney vs Behrens is one of my favorites. Talk about premature move.

I remember his Stephen Foster being visually impressive. Can't find a video of it though.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Victory Gallop, Wagon Limit, Milwaukee Brew, Festin, Aptitude, Real Quiet, Tejano Run, Unbridled, Turkoman, Pleasant Tap, Pleasantly Perfect...

Zenyatta ....was "dead last!" in the B.C. and most of her other races . had an Equibase fig of 126 in 2009 compared to 124 for A.gate

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by richard burch

Zenyatta ....was "dead last!" in the B.C. and most of her other races . had an Equibase fig of 126 in 2009 compared to 124 for A.gate

Uh oh.....

[Indian Charlie]

Lol. Yeah. That is so idiotic it's barely worth responding to.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Lol. Yeah. That is so idiotic it's barely worth responding to.

With you and i loved Z.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Uh oh.....

well I didn't throw out the numbers, someone else did.
and when they asked Mr. Smith after the race if this was the best horse he ever rode he didn't respond "yes". He said something to the effect "well I rode the great mare Zenyatta blah, blah blah...etc etc etc... i think he said Zenyatta 3 times when talking about Arrogate.

so i guess we will never no unless they throw a saddle on her again.


and rachel in her prime would have beat them both.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Ghostzapper was one hell of a horse

he had a 128 beyers in 2004

[richard burch]

Beyer speculated that had his figures existed in 1973, Secretariat would have scored 139 in his classic 1973 win at the Belmont Stakes.

highest figures all-time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyer_Speed_Figure

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by richard burch

well I didn't throw out the numbers, someone else did.
and when they asked Mr. Smith after the race if this was the best horse he ever rode he didn't respond "yes". He said something to the effect "well I rode the great mare Zenyatta blah, blah blah...etc etc etc... i think he said Zenyatta 3 times when talking about Arrogate.

so i guess we will never no unless they throw a saddle on her again.


and rachel in her prime would have beat them both.

Actually, not that what a jockey says means anything, but I think Smith did say Arrogate is the best horse he's ever ridden.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by richard burch

well I didn't throw out the numbers, someone else did.
and when they asked Mr. Smith after the race if this was the best horse he ever rode he didn't respond "yes". He said something to the effect "well I rode the great mare Zenyatta blah, blah blah...etc etc etc... i think he said Zenyatta 3 times when talking about Arrogate.

so i guess we will never no unless they throw a saddle on her again.


and rachel in her prime would have beat them both.

I guess he forgot riding Holy Bull, who was in a different league than Zenyatta.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I guess he forgot riding Holy Bull, who was in a different league than Zenyatta.

He is a hopeless zenyatta fan and he's already stated his belief that Arrogate is not extraordinary. Further attempts at bringing him to reality would be like trying to argue a point with Reverend Jim.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I guess he forgot riding Holy Bull, who was in a different league than Zenyatta.

See the thing is, holy bull was awesome, but hosses passed him sometimes. No hoss passed Zenyatta. She passed every hoss she ever ran against except 1. Smith took the Blame for that .

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

See the thing is, holy bull was awesome, but hosses passed him sometimes. No hoss passed Zenyatta. She passed every hoss she ever ran against except 1. Smith took the Blame for that .

I'm sure running styles had nothing to do with that.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm sure running styles had nothing to do with that.

Weak comeback Cha cha.

[ateamstupid]

Did someone really say Rachel Alexandra would've beaten Arrogate?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Weak comeback Cha cha.

Maybe it was a weak comeback because it wasn't a comeback at all. It was a rebuttal to a really dumb idea.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did someone really say Rachel Alexandra would've beaten Arrogate?

Why not? Apparently Zenyatta was better than both of them.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

See the thing is, holy bull was awesome, but hosses passed him sometimes. No hoss passed Zenyatta. She passed every hoss she ever ran against except 1. Smith took the Blame for that .

Right! exactly right....and she could have passed him too.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did someone really say Rachel Alexandra would've beaten Arrogate?

got a problem with that?


lets be real here. since the political board got removed there is really no drama on this site at all. i long for the days of arguing stupid opinions.