Have we seen the Ky Derby winner race this year?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Mott is obviously holding the goods.
Hidden Scroll is a monster. Country House is good and Tacticus has every right to be good.

Bill Mott winning a derby works for me. I have to see Hidden Scroll on a dry track. Hidden Scroll certainly can handle a wet one.

[ONTHERAIL]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Gus I think March 9 will tell us a lot about the derby with Tampa Derby and San Felipe running that day.

SF loaded with 2 Bafferts and Instagrand. Tell us a lot indeed!!

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL

SF loaded with 2 Bafferts and Instagrand. Tell us a lot indeed!!

Maybe add Gunmetal Gray in the mix.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Maybe add Gunmetal Grey in the mix.

We already know he's not a contender.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

We already know he's not a contender.

Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

Gus quite a few of us will be Tampa derby. You coming up for that?

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Mucho working half miles and is expected in an ALW in March.

Waiting to hear back from Mrs. Lyon or Baffert about Magic On Tap, but he's not working, so I wouldn't expect anything soon.

thanks Steve...that's what I thought

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Gus quite a few of us will be Tampa derby. You coming up for that?

Good deal - 90% - I'll know for sure next week.

[moses]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Mott is obviously holding the goods.
Hidden Scroll is a monster. Country House is good and Tacticus has every right to be good.

It’s probably just because I have a futures wager on him at 35-1, but I Hope Vekoma dominates him in the FoY. The field looks like it could be pretty good.

Fountain of Youth
Probables
Admire (Romans)
Vekoma (Weaver)
Hidden Scroll (Mott)
Bourbon War (Hennig)
Signalman (McPeek)
Code of Honor (McGaughey)

Possibles
Global Campaign (Hough)
Maximus Mischief (Reid)
Harvey Wallbanger (McPeek)
Mihos (Jerkens)

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Good deal - 90% - I'll know for sure next week.

Nice shoot me a message if you do

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

It’s probably just because I have a futures wager on him at 35-1, but I Hope Vekoma dominates him in the FoY. The field looks like it could be pretty good.

Fountain of Youth
Probables
Admire (Romans)
Vekoma (Weaver)
Hidden Scroll (Mott)
Bourbon War (Hennig)
Signalman (McPeek)
Code of Honor (McGaughey)

Possibles
Global Campaign (Hough)
Maximus Mischief (Reid)
Harvey Wallbanger (McPeek)
Mihos (Jerkens)

I’ll take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

[moses]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

For Hollendorfer, I like Galilean more than GMG. That horse was 3+ wide the entire California Cup and still finished well. I believe West Point owns a piece of both horses and they’ll move forward with Galilean if he outperforms GMG (assuming Galilean runs).

Given the other competition in the San Felipe, 3rd seems like a best case scenario for GMG.

Also for Hollendorfer, I’m interested to see if Rowayton does anything in 2019 and whether he’ll show a little more stamina or whether he’ll prove to not have the distance in him for the classics.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Nice shoot me a message if you do

Without question

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I’ll take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

He’s got a shot for sure. I’m on the Vekoma bandwagon but can’t count out a handful of the horses mentioned as probables/possibles. McPeek plans to run Signalman in the FoY, and I think may rest HW and shoot for the Florida Derby with him, which may be a pretty good plan. Why push him if you think he can win the Florida Derby?

[opusone]

Yesterday. Maximum Security

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Currently has 18pts and with a 3rd place finish he's all but guaranteed a spot in the gate come May 4th. He's an interesting prospect to catch a minor slice going forward.

No he isn't. He is a total mediocrity who has zero chance in a race like the Derby.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I’ll take Harvey Wallbanger for $200 Alex

He's more likely to be last.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No he isn't. He is a total mediocrity who has zero chance in a race like the Derby.

I'm willing to give him a shot, especially as the distances increase down the road. He had no chance in the Bob Lewis chasing a lone front runner.

[moses]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

He's more likely to be last.

HW seems to run well every race. I’m sure he could pass some tired rivals but I don’t see him in the top tier (and there may be 2-3 very good horses in the FoY).

I’m not really impressed with any of the horses from the Holy Bull. I may cut Maximus Mischief some slack because he was off the lay-off. But so was HW.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

HW seems to run well every race. I’m sure he could pass some tired rivals but I don’t see him in the top tier (and there may be 2-3 very good horses in the FoY).

I’m not really impressed with any of the horses from the Holy Bull. I may cut Maximus Mischief some slack because he was off the lay-off. But so was HW.

The replays tell the story. He has run well every time and wants to compete. I like competitive types .