Sir Greeley...no 2nd this weekend

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't see why SS needs to prove he can win in the East. It's not like Idiot Proof and Shaggy Mane had any great troubles recently. I think his form will improve markedly if shipped East.

He has to prove he can IF he runs here...and if he does I think he will do well. But, he still has to do it.

The two horses you mentioned took advantage of a speed bias. Doesn't IEAH own one of them?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

That was not a speed biased track that day IMO. Not even close

Many horses ran well racing wide and off the pace---including the Matz bum that looped around Most Distinugished.

The four horses involved in the pace battle in the six furlong maiden race all came back to run markedly better as well

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

That was not a speed biased track that day IMO. Not even close

Many horses ran well racing wide and off the pace---including the Matz bum that looped around Most Distinugished.

The four horses involved in the pace battle in the six furlong maiden race all came back to run markedly better as well

And the two horses that tried to close behind the IEAH horse you mentioned just finished one-two in a stake 9 days ago.

The fact is that other than that insane closer I bet in the sprint nobody gained significant ground in any of the races....other than the Matz horse you mentioned who got a pretty juicy setup.

By the way, did you think Most Distinguished maybe turned a corner or just met a very weak field. I want to believe the former but am inclined to think the latter. He has run some reasonably fast races before.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And the two horses that tried to close behind the IEAH horse you mentioned just finished one-two in a stake 9 days ago.

The fact is that other than that insane closer I bet in the sprint nobody gained significant ground in any of the races....other than the Matz horse you mentioned who got a pretty juicy setup.

By the way, did you think Most Distinguished maybe turned a corner or just met a very weak field. I want to believe the former but am inclined to think the latter. He has run some reasonably fast races before.

I think I bet the allowance caliber Sugar Swirl in that stake...and the wildly overrated Onaag McCool was a heavy favorite in that stake.

25/1 or so Storm in May and the 65/1 or so Matz winner weren't the only two to gain significant ground. The logical Rescue Party won while wide from mid-pack. Many non-winners also made up signifcant ground. They include Dry Martini, Fearless Vison, Ididntdoanything, and while Swap Fliparoo didn't make up large amounts of ground, she passed all the trash and went from last to 2nd behind the IEAH No Cal juice job.


I am leaning the same way you are with Most Distinguished. The field probably flattered him some.

What I've noticed over the years about horses like him---who always seem to lose a battle--is that when they do finally win, many times it seems to be by a large margin in no doubt about it style.

[blackthroatedwind]

I think Sunshine Millions day was a " speed friendly " track. I thought the 25-1 shot you mentioned should have been 6-1.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And the two horses that tried to close behind the IEAH horse you mentioned just finished one-two in a stake 9 days ago.

The fact is that other than that insane closer I bet in the sprint nobody gained significant ground in any of the races....other than the Matz horse you mentioned who got a pretty juicy setup.

By the way, did you think Most Distinguished maybe turned a corner or just met a very weak field. I want to believe the former but am inclined to think the latter. He has run some reasonably fast races before.

Hopefully
Zito must have been thrilled to finally get the win. His first race behind Pegasus Wind looked rather promising and then...

[Mac88]

Dont forget Ramsgate if Bobby ships him East for Met Mile. Or possibly a distance challenged 3YO ala Holy Bull will point for it.....that would be interesting

[Linny]

If he stays in one piece, I'd think that Chatain might be a nice middle distance horse.

[Mac88]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Holy Bull was distance challenged? Please explain. If you are coming to that conclusion based on his Derby run on a track he obviously hated wouldn't his win in the Travers at the same distance kill that. Not to mention the race he ran in the Travers was incredible dueling with Lukas' rabbit Commanche Trail and holding off eventual BC Classic winner Concern.

Think you might be reading wrong or what I wrote was confusing. Meant Holy Bull for 3YO aspect not distance challenged aspect. And I am well aware of his 3YO accomplishments

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

If he stays in one piece, I'd think that Chatain might be a nice middle distance horse.

Yeah, I would guess he is probably pointing for both the Carter and Met.