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03-05-2007, 08:59 PM
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03-05-2007, 09:10 PM
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i totally agree with randall, i look for the prices in a race 4-1 or higher... you need to go place, my basic wager is $50wp and i think i do ok
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03-05-2007, 09:11 PM
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i think its crazy if you like a horse at a solid price not to go win place, especially if its a large field
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03-05-2007, 09:12 PM
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, wheel your longshot to run second. Better yet box the two, and forget it. If you win, you've got a nice exacta. Beyond that, I'm not sure where you are. Hopefully this explains a bit.
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03-05-2007, 09:19 PM
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1. I played a $12 pick 6 ticket on Belmont Stakes day and I was singled to Smarty Jones. I dont know how much it would have paid but was still my best handicapping day.
2. I played Hoove's pick 4 ticket at gulfstream with a $100 winner had the two favs going in last race both paid 9k.
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03-05-2007, 09:20 PM
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03-05-2007, 09:22 PM
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I've heard both schools of thought -- on betting place (and show for that matter). I've also heard similar thoughts when it comes to exacta wheels and back-wheels.
I don't know if there is a right or wrong answer, but I've used place and show as a "hedge" against my win. I've collected on the place and show wagers and I've lost both of them along with my win bet. I think the exacta discussion is a bit circular -- pick a horse on top, key up on 1 or 2 exactas, have your horse win, but not hit the exacta. I am sure these #'s come out all over the board, but if I can't really feel as confident on my 1 or two key exactas, then I think it makes sense to look for value (especially if I feel the favorite exacta, and the second horse isn't offering value, is probable not to be there, etc.). I certainly don't want to lose as much or near as much on the gimmicks as I've won on the win bet (although those will be low priced horses, #'s, etc.). Any thoughts from the pro's, serious players, etc.? Thank you.
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03-05-2007, 09:25 PM
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Eric, the school of thought is take advantage of the pools. Wait till the end to bet. If there is enought value in a large field in the show pool with a vulnerable fave, I have no problem betting to show either...But win/place on price horses is a fine way to go. I can't stomach 20-1 shots I bet finishing second and getting nothing. Simply not worth it.
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03-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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this past BC...singled Dreaming Of Anna, used Street Sense, singled Oujia Board. Was alive to 5 horses in the Sprint...and Thors Echo was not 1 of them. Will pays were anywhere from $1,500 to $10,000 if memory serves me right.
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03-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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03-05-2007, 09:34 PM
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Thors f*cking Echo.... he has joined the likes of Rock Lobster...
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03-05-2007, 09:36 PM
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Rock Lobster screwed Gander and I last summer at Toga. He is on my "list"
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03-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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We should go to South America or inner city Chicago and find four weight qualified hard workers and tell them to train hard and you could make them a millionaire. Show them rides by Shane Laviolette as WHAT NOT TO DO and show them rides by Kent Desormeaux/Javy Castellano/some Bailey/Stevens on WHAT TO DO. I see people all around here that could easily make weight and they bust their ass, just hope they have some heart and passion, and they would be better then 70% of the jocks out there...
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03-05-2007, 09:48 PM
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