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Old 03-13-2007, 10:30 AM
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whats the breeding on this filly, i missed the race but everyone seems to be excited, tell me a little about her.
By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:43 AM
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By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.
UMMM her dam-sire is fappiano who is by Mr. Prospector
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:43 AM
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isnt fappiano from mr. p?
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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whats the breeding on this filly, i missed the race but everyone seems to be excited, tell me a little about her.
She was $120k Keeneland Sept. yearling purchase bought by his
owner/trainer.

The mare has has not produced a black type runner yet, but
has produced many winners. She has a 4yo Dynaformer colt
named Mr. Big in training at Hollywood Park.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:03 AM
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By Stormy Atlantic & out of a graded stakes placed Fappiano mare.
Here is the full pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/magnificience
The complete absence of any Mr. Prospector in her pedigree probably gives us a hint as to where her furute as a broodmare might be. But perhaps we should let her race......oh I don't know......at least twice before we retire her.
thank you
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:04 AM
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she has a very nice pedigree, i wish i could see the race
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:08 AM
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she has a very nice pedigree, i wish i could see the race
PG1985

Try the race replays at calracing.com they should have it
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:12 AM
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Try the race replays at calracing.com they should have it
they do...I actually just watched it again...damn she looked good.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:34 AM
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Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:39 AM
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Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.
I thought it was impressive that Chocolate Lava held on for second through the fast early pace.

Estimated fractions for Magnificience:
23.27
22.16
23.73
6.46

Falling behind early may have been the best thing to happen to her and the race may be getting slightly overrated cause it was so visually appealing. To run the 3rd and 4th furlongs in 22.16 and comeback in sub-24 is pretty impressive though.
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Old 03-13-2007, 11:46 AM
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Holy Cow! what a filly! Santa anita has the goods right now!
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:01 PM
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Zada Belle, this filly, and Rags to Riches are by far the best three filies that I have seen this year.

On another note...poor Chocolate Lava. This horse can't break her maiden because she keeps running against Grade I caliber horses. In her first start, she had a horrendous trip to finish...I believe it was fifth. Then she runs second to Silver Swallow in her next start who just ran second to Rags to Riches Sunday. Then she runs against this monstrous filly in her next maiden race to finish second again. Sheesh...talk about a tough break.
This is a good point. Chocolate Lava on a normal day would have one of the most obvious short priced maiden winners that you can find. She has as you pointed out ran into some really unfortunate circumstances but in her own right has looked really nice.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:05 PM
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I thought it was impressive that Chocolate Lava held on for second through the fast early pace.

Estimated fractions for Magnificience:
23.27
22.16
23.73
6.46

Falling behind early may have been the best thing to happen to her and the race may be getting slightly overrated cause it was so visually appealing. To run the 3rd and 4th furlongs in 22.16 and comeback in sub-24 is pretty impressive though.
Its entirely possible that getting left helped and that it was slightly overrated. But you cannot deny that the way she was striding out so powerfully in the stretch with her head up and ears back was simply awesome. Also that middle quarter is worth noting!!
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:13 PM
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Its entirely possible that getting left helped and that it was slightly overrated. But you cannot deny that the way she was striding out so powerfully in the stretch with her head up and ears back was simply awesome. Also that middle quarter is worth noting!!
It was definitely very impressive. I'll be interested in seeing her next race out and seeing if she stretches out or is going to be a deep closing sprinter.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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It was definitely very impressive. I'll be interested in seeing her next race out and seeing if she stretches out or is going to be a deep closing sprinter.
Yes the trick will be to see if she can just cruise/rate, and save that kick for when she needs it. The sky's the limit for this one.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:38 PM
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UMMM her dam-sire is fappiano who is by Mr. Prospector
Oh yeah, I missed that one.
I see that my lack of pedigree knowledge is matched by inability to read.
It was pretty foolish of me to even THINK that a horse in this country today would not have Mr. P in their pedigree.
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Old 03-13-2007, 05:51 PM
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Oh yeah, I missed that one.
I see that my lack of pedigree knowledge is matched by inability to read.
It was pretty foolish of me to even THINK that a horse in this country today would not have Mr. P in their pedigree.
at this point it's almost impossible

at least you seem to be able to read pp's....more useful than general reading
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Old 03-13-2007, 07:13 PM
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Kasept, what show are you talking about where O'Neill commented on this? Is it on the web? Always interested in finding out more about horse racing shows, especially California racing. Thanks, Ron
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