Perfect Drift finishes 2nd

[Zaf]

Perfect Drift, Funny Cide, Evening Attire

3 of my favorite horses

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Stop it....please. Please name a time Perfect Drift has ever sailed by anyone.

you make me laugh ,you take this to serious . he would have beat him is that better.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Stop it....please. Please name a time Perfect Drift has ever sailed by anyone.

washington park handicap 05, the whole foster field last year till he didn't see see seek gold or he would have had another grade 1 plain and simple.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Do you really think it would be good for the sport if - in a year or so - horses like Funny Cide and/or Perfect Drift were dropped into cheap claiming races and still failed to hit the board?
Just "making it to the gate" is not enough. These horses are/were great competitors and deserve more than to be treated like that.
Right now they are (thankfully) still quite competitive so it isn't a problem, but I hope that when their days of being competitive are over, their connections don't disregard what is in their horses' best interest (like you apparently want them to do) and instead know when to retire the horses. I am confident that PD's connections will do right by their horse. I am less confident in FC's owners.

I think it is fabulous that I am able to sit with my son and we can watch Funny Cide race together. He was only 3 when Funny Cide won the Derby. Now we can sit and watch and I can teach him about horse racing. There is much more to racing then how a horse performs on the track. In my opinion, horses like the ones that were metioned should race as long as they are healthy.

[Zaf]

Whodey17,

agree 1000 %

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by whodey17

I think it is fabulous that I am able to sit with my son and we can watch Funny Cide race together. He was only 3 when Funny Cide won the Derby. Now we can sit and watch and I can teach him about horse racing. There is much more to racing then how a horse performs on the track. In my opinion, horses like the ones that were metioned should race as long as they are healthy.

Okay....I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I am certainly glad all three of these guys are still racing RIGHT NOW. The only thing I was disagreeing with you about was when you said all that matters is if they reach the starting gate. I just like these three old geldings too much to ever want to see them run in races where they have no chance....and say "oh well, at least they started." Hopefully it will never come to that.

[Grits]

Some of you make these older guys, particularly Drift, in this thread sound like nothing but plodders. Same old, Same old, some things never change.

If one looked closely at Drift's past performance lines yesterday, they'd see that Murray Johnson brought Drift back similarly from a long layoff. Quite similarly.

I KNEW Drift would be short yesterday. I figured most knew that.

But to dog a horse like this that has made FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in his career on a racetrack-or one like Evening Attire, who has netted close, is a real abomination.

Its as cheap as one can get in this game where armchair opinions are so vital.

I know for a FACT, that there are not two owners in this sport that have, and always will have, the best interest of their horses at heart--than the owners of Drift and Evening Attire.

This sport would elevate itself with more owners having this level of integrity and concern for their horses and the overall condition of the game of horseracing.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Zaf

Perfect Drift, Funny Cide, Evening Attire

3 of my favorite horses

I LOVE Evening Attire!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Grits

Some of you make these older guys, particularly Drift, in this thread sound like nothing but plodders. Same old, Same old, some things never change.

If one looked closely at Drift's past performance lines yesterday, they'd see that Murray Johnson brought Drift back similarly from a long layoff. Quite similarly.

I KNEW Drift would be short yesterday. I figured most knew that.

But to dog a horse like this that has made FIVE MILLION DOLLARS in his career on a racetrack-or one like Evening Attire, who has netted close, is a real abomination.

Its as cheap as one can get in this game where armchair opinions are so vital.

I know for a FACT, that there are not two owners in this sport that have, and always will have, the best interest of their horses at heart--than the owners of Drift and Evening Attire.

This sport would elevate itself with more owners having this level of integrity and concern for their horses and the overall condition of the game of horseracing.

i just went back thru the entire thread, and still don't see who dogged this horse. or evening attire for that matter.

[Grits]

Miraja2 referred to Drift as "some things never change".

Sorry that you missed that Danzig. But as you often say, everyone's entitled to disagree.

I added Attire because similar has been said, while people tend to second guess owners who are running horses this age. Horrible things have been said at many websites. (I know this for fact, I AM NOT stating what I do not know where these two horses and their respective owners are concerned.)

I suppose if anyone here owned either Drift or Attire they'd not be complaining too much about their career earnings and what has enhanced their bank account's bottom line.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Stop it....please. Please name a time Perfect Drift has ever sailed by anyone.

And this was a nice one as well.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Grits

Miraja2 referred to Drift as "some things never change".

Sorry that you missed that Danzig. But as you often say, everyone's entitled to disagree.

I added Attire because similar has been said, while people tend to second guess owners who are running horses this age. Horrible things have been said at many websites. (I know this for fact, I AM NOT stating what I do not know where these two horses and their respective owners are concerned.)

I suppose if anyone here owned either Drift or Attire they'd not be complaining too much about their career earnings and what has enhanced their bank account's bottom line.

perfect drift finishes in the money quite often, while getting the win oftentimes is elusive. so he finished second again, which is something he does a lot. that isn't dogging, it's saying he did a thing he usually does. i think everyone gives props to these horses, while also acknowledging they have lost a step or two from their heyday, but still able to pull off a good win on occasion, such as drifts record-setting win last year. everyone knows that drifty has won a ton of money. i don't recall anyone here saying anything about the horses age, or picking on the owners--unlike the shake you down situation.

[Grits]

One can declare the obvious and the "I think everyone knows," readily, in defense, and after the fact recognizing the knowledge of the multitudes .

My point being, obviously, to some the fact that Drift has made multi-millions is of little significance. That being the crux of the matter, is why I find no honor in commenting negatively on the horse. None whatsoever.

As I said, JMHO and I disagree with those that do.

Let's go to Keeneland there are horses running.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Some things never change.
He looked like his usual consistent self today.
I hope he somehow manages to put together a good enough year to run in his 83rd straight BCC.

Grits,
I am at a loss as to how you viewed this post as somehow knocking Perfect Drift.
I meant "some things never change" in a positive way. He is still hitting the board like always. People haven't really been knocking the horse in this thread....so I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be arguing with a straw-man of your own creation.
Perfect Drift is a very good horse. He may not win very often, but it isn't easy to be competitive at the level he has competed at, for as long as he has.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Grits

My point being, obviously, to some the fact that Drift has made multi-millions is of little significance. That being the crux of the matter, is why I find no honor in commenting negatively on the horse. None whatsoever. As I said, JMHO and I disagree with those that do.

Who the hell are you talking about here?

[Grits]

I didn't call the horse Drifty, not a time, so if you're addressing me, get that right, ok.

Save your negative comment for the owner, Bryan Reed, DVM.

And you have no idea what Dr.Reed . . . reads. So keep posting.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Glad you liked it. Again, is it not true? Congrats on being so astute to see "Drifty" would be short yesterday, but he's almost always short. I thought to say another furlong he would sail by anyone was ridiculous, as he really never has shown that he wants to do that, especially in the last 2 years. Like I said, he's a good horse. Sure I'd love to own him, I'd love to own a 3k claimer at Finger Lakes but it doesn't take away the fact that "Drifty" isn't exactly known for blowing past anyone in the lane. Either way, I'm sure "drifty" didn't read this thread so I'm almost sure his feelings weren't hurt. Just in case though I will send him an apology.

Decent return by Perfect Hanger.

Side note: I'd be happy to start a forum for Grits where all differing opinions from her own are swiftly purged and the user "vaporized."

[Grits]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Grits,
I am at a loss as to how you viewed this post as somehow knocking Perfect Drift.
I meant "some things never change" in a positive way. He is still hitting the board like always. People haven't really been knocking the horse in this thread....so I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be arguing with a straw-man of your own creation.
Perfect Drift is a very good horse. He may not win very often, but it isn't easy to be competitive at the level he has competed at, for as long as he has.

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Decent return by Perfect Hanger.

Side note: I'd be happy to start a forum for Grits where all differing opinions from her own are swiftly purged and the user "vaporized."

THIS is Pants, and this is humor. A+ Pants, you go to the head of the class. There's a way to say things always.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Grits

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

Just so I don't step on any toes, what exactly is the threshold of dollars earned at which a horse becomes untouchable? $2 Million? $5 Million?

Nobody disputes that the horse has had a great career and has been a very productive individual, but I don't see how that eliminates the ability for someone to point out that the horse is not quite what he used to be and has never had a propensity for blowing by horses or for being a win machine. Those seem to be more statements of fact than they are statements of disrespect towards the horse's entire career.

And what the hell does any of it have to do with "honor?"

Talking about a horse's form being less than it used to be has no more to do with "honor" (or lack thereof as you've implied) than it has to do with blueberry pancakes.