Scat Daddy - Page 2

Cajungator26 · #21 04-27-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

While I don't like his chances and won't be betting him, Curlin definitely seems to have "it"- whatever that is. . . Scat Daddy is probably Pletcher's 3rd stringer and doesn't seem to be improving much. . . I just can't see moving up enough to beat the horses in here who seem to have more potential. . .

I just can't see Curlin as having 'it' yet... 3 starts doesn't equal 'it' for me... sorry.

XIIPointStables · #22 04-27-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

While I don't like his chances and won't be betting him, Curlin definitely seems to have "it"- whatever that is. . . Scat Daddy is probably Pletcher's 3rd stringer and doesn't seem to be improving much. . . I just can't see moving up enough to beat the horses in here who seem to have more potential. . .

I think Steve has mentioned on DT Live that Scat Daddy is actually the "bell of Pletcher's barn" and that he loves him.

Maybe talent-wise he's a third stringer, but seems like TP is a fan.

ateamstupid · #23 04-27-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

I think Steve has mentioned on DT Live that Scat Daddy is actually the "bell of Pletcher's barn" and that he loves him.

Maybe talent-wise he's a third stringer, but seems like TP is a fan.

Nick Zito said the same thing about Sun King before the Derby.. Didn't make him any more of a winner.

philcski · #24 04-27-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nick Zito said the same thing about Sun King before the Derby.. Didn't make him any more of a winner.

Sun King was horribly off form going into that Derby, he ended up going off at almost 30-1 (and he ran like it...) At least in the case of Scat Daddy he's coming in off close to a career best effort.

I think High Fly is an excellent comparison. A very good, gritty colt who found ways to win with less than spectacular speed figures who didn't figure to move up at 10F. That year he was the one I had the most difficulty determining whether to toss him (eventually I came to the conclusion he may end up too close to the pace and fried- at the top of the stretch he was actually the leader) and I feel the same way about Scat Daddy this year. I will probably make some protection bets with him but that's about it.

Java Gold · #25 04-27-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't particularly disagree but it feels like his odds are lower than his actual chances of winning. He is a model of consistency, and not only does that make him slower than at least a few serious contenders, it also makes him less likely to dramatically improve. To me he is somewhat reminiscent of Lawyer Ron, or High Fly, in that he's clearly talented but also clearly slower than more than a few, and will take real money.

Not that I am endorsing him, but I feel like Tiago is in some ways a more likely winner, in that he COULD improve. I also feel like he is likely to lose to Scat Daddy but I am not sure he isn't a likelier winner of the race.

Tiago? puhllezz he could not hold Scat Dady's jock. Your cash 5/5 is greatly appreciated.

Java OUT

Thunder Gulch · #26 04-27-2007, 03:31 PM

Scat Daddy is a good horse, but there have been distance questions on him for a long time, and the conventional wisdom is that he will not get faster at longer distances. Add to that the fact that he hasn't run a triple digit Beyer, and you don't have a good profile for the Derby.

That said, I think he is as professional and consistent as anyone in here. Put him in the hands of Pletcher and nothing would surprise me. I think he has a good shot at a top 5, but not the win. I'd compare him to More Than Ready.

blackthroatedwind · #27 04-27-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold

Tiago? puhllezz he could not hold Scat Dady's jock. Your cash 5/5 is greatly appreciated.

Java OUT

The real question is who's jock are you currently holding?

Cajungator26 · #28 04-27-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The real question is who's jock are you currently holding?

Oh wow... LOL

ArlJim78 · #29 04-27-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold

Tiago? puhllezz he could not hold Scat Dady's jock. Your cash 5/5 is greatly appreciated.

Java OUT

Aren't you the guy who is real high on Cobalt Blue?

blackthroatedwind · #30 04-27-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Aren't you the guy who is real high on Cobalt Blue?

You mean this post....under the heading " No need to name 5 "

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Originally Posted by Java Gold

Cobalt Blue...who cares about the rest... huge futures at huge odds...

Java Gold

miraja2 · #31 04-27-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Aren't you the guy who is real high on Cobalt Blue?

He has already defeated Level Red AND Air Commander in the same race.

Clearly he is the class of the crop.

ArlJim78 · #32 04-27-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You mean this post....under the heading " No need to name 5 "

yeah, that's what I thought.

I keep seeing Mr Gold talking about taking peoples money, and offering to be the ticket window for others, however with his money on Cobalt Blue I'm fairly sure that he will be donating money, and not receiving any on derby day.

blackthroatedwind · #33 04-27-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

yeah, that's what I thought.

I keep seeing Mr Gold talking about taking peoples money, and offering to be the ticket window for others, however with his money on Cobalt Blue I'm fairly sure that he will be donating money, and not receiving any on derby day.

Aside from of course misconstruing my comments concerning Tiago, probably because of substandard reading skills, he is also looking forward to booking DrugS's action.

Come to think of it, it makes a LOT of sense that he likes Cobalt Blue.

ArlJim78 · #34 04-27-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

He has already defeated Level Red AND Air Commander in the same race.

Clearly he is the class of the crop.

well that clears it up then.

Maybe he saw that he defeated Street Lights, and got it confused with Street Sense.

slotdirt · #35 04-27-2007, 05:43 PM

Seacrest OUT!

Java Gold · #36 04-27-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

yeah, that's what I thought.

I keep seeing Mr Gold talking about taking peoples money, and offering to be the ticket window for others, however with his money on Cobalt Blue I'm fairly sure that he will be donating money, and not receiving any on derby day.

Sure thing jimmyboy.... played a few future wagers. Means nothing when it come down to betting 5/5. Be sure to post your selections her prior to the derby as I will for braggin rights... oh yeh your sidekick can as well..

Java OUT

blackthroatedwind · #37 04-27-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold

My two favorite dolts....both clueless...but whats new... Tiago made me laugh Blackthroatjob....nice call with Smith up...sure win for sure... god let me be your window 5/5..

Java OUT

Hey Tony Clifton, you don't mind if I call you by the name you originally used to slander people here, where exactly did I say I liked Tiago?

You know....sort of like where you said you liked Cobalt Blue.

AeWingnut · #38 04-27-2007, 05:56 PM

Scat Daddy has one thing that makes me wonder about him. The RAN curse.
Who is going to get faster the farter they go? and if everyone tries to rate who will try and steal it? I mean what if we get a War Emblem track. Anyone that breaks worst than 4th doesn't hit the board.

btw Sam P has never delivered the goods.

it's to bad Hard Spun has been mismanaged.

I'm still looking for a long shot to key I have one in mind but won't committ until after the draw.

ArlJim78 · #39 04-27-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Java Gold

Sure thing jimmyboy.... played a few future wagers. Means nothing when it come down to betting 5/5. Be sure to post your selections her prior to the derby as I will for braggin rights... oh yeh your sidekick can as well..

Java OUT

Don't worry yourself, I am not one to shy away from posting picks.

Oh I eagerly await the details of your 5/5 wagering.

Nice of you to step up on the comic relief side of things, seeing that PG man has departed the scene.
thanks,

blackthroatedwind · #40 04-27-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Scat Daddy has one thing that makes me wonder about him. The RAN curse.
Who is going to get faster the farter they go? and if everyone tries to rate who will try and steal it? I mean what if we get a War Emblem track. Anyone that breaks worst than 4th doesn't hit the board.

btw Sam P has never delivered the goods.

it's to bad Hard Spun has been mismanaged.

I'm still looking for a long shot to key I have one in mind but won't committ until after the draw.

Believe me I'm not singing Sam P's praises. I just feel like he may be one of the better longshots in the race. He's really the only horse coming into this race with reasonable darkened form. To me he was the best horse in the SA Derby and had he won that race his odds would have been a half or even a third of what they are going to be.

On the other hand a stronger argument could probably be made that the SA Derby was a lousy race.