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Old 05-05-2007, 10:11 PM
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I would take Hard Spun over SS in the Preakness especially if he runs like he did today.

If the race was 1 1/8 Hard Spun would have won
Really? why?
Street Sense took the lead at about 1 1/8 miles, and led for the length of the stretch.

The Preakness is only 100 yards shorter than the Derby.
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Good job. Just don't see why it had to be posted twice.
Sorry, just got back on line...it was a "wild" day on "estreet"!
hope you and "Rand" had
just as good day!
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:24 PM
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Are we starting this already?
we left the house for a bit, told my kids this would be up and running by the time we got back.
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:27 PM
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Really? why?
Street Sense took the lead at about 1 1/8 miles, and led for the length of the stretch.

The Preakness is only 100 yards shorter than the Derby.
calvin knows the race is shorter, and will ride accordingly. i look forward to a rematch between the two horses in maryland.
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:29 PM
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Well "I" had a good day, not sure about "Rand".
Good to hear that!
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:31 PM
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hard spun ran beautifully, i was yelling for him to relax a bit! he did ok, just a shame that he lost. but if he was going to lose, i knew it would be to that guy. street sense is good--i don't get the overpowering sense from him that i have from past winners-but his derby was a good race, can't take a thing away from him. top two are definitely good horses. curlins lack of seasoning imo contributed to his finishing back, but his raw talent got him third. look for more from him in future, today only being his fourth run ever.
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:36 PM
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Street Sense Will win the triple crown. I can't see any scenario that could change my mind. Good Luck Sense!!!!!!
I can't see it. I could be wrong, but I think that Street Sense is the least likely possible TC winner out of the past five Derby winners or so (except maybe Giacomo). This is because I think Nafzger saw the Debry as the goal all along, and it's going to be extremely difficult to get him fully cranked again for 9 1/2 furlongs in two weeks, then 12 three weeks later.

Boils down to whether or not you saw Street Sense's race today as his absolute best or not. I think any regression or lack of fitness will knock him out and I think one or the other is likely to happen.
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i do know that hard spun doesn't make it a habit to lose. i really think he could turn the tables in a couple weeks. but then again, less horses, slightly shorter...does curlin make his presence known?



gonna be a long two weeks.
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I would take Hard Spun over SS in the Preakness especially if he runs like he did today.

If the race was 1 1/8 Hard Spun would have won
Couldn't disagree more. Street Sense had already passed Hard Spun by 1 1/8 and the Preakness is a little longer at 1 3/16.
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:08 PM
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preakness is a whole new ball game. anything can happen. no two races are run the same way.
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:18 PM
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did someone hit the exacta?

btw

Zanjero had plenty of excuses
he checked repeatedly and running 3rd would have given me the trifecta 2 times... so ofcourse he couldn't get there
ofcourse the only one that was moving was Street Sense
everyone else was just playing pinball.


I never saw the blanket of roses on SS
did he get warm and have to be cooled off?
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:39 AM
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Let's just remember the Preakness is now the race for new shooters and Maryland wannabes...I don't think any of us can be certain we will see Hard Spun or Curlin in Baltimore. I know Pletcher has already ruled all five of his entries that went today out.

No certainity, but I'm just saying, the middle jewel might not be as big a contest and people are thinking.

Now the Belmont...
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Old 05-06-2007, 04:10 AM
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What did you watch???
I was watching the video on the churchill downs site,but they just showed the run on our tvn with the overhead view Wow if the other horses had been able to hold their line would street have got such a dream run?
Best runner there for sure but would it have gotten past all the other horses hard to say
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Old 05-06-2007, 04:42 AM
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I would take Hard Spun over SS in the Preakness especially if he runs like he did today.

If the race was 1 1/8 Hard Spun would have won
Really? Even though SS was a length in front of him at that point?
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Old 05-06-2007, 04:47 AM
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...I think that Street Sense is the least likely possible TC winner out of the past five Derby winners or so (except maybe Giacomo).
Except? The Green Monkey, today, is just as likely to win the Triple Crown as Giacomo was after winning the Derby. I would say both were right around zero percent.
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:01 AM
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If Afleet Alex had not found a way to stay up....Giacomo would have taken the Preakness by DQ.

A horse who finished 3rd beaten 7 or more lengths has never come so close to winning a triple crown race.
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:03 AM
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Except for the fact he was never, ever going to win the Belmont.
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:10 AM
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I would take Hard Spun over SS in the Preakness especially if he runs like he did today.

If the race was 1 1/8 Hard Spun would have won
I agree. But the thing is, Hard Spun and Curlin will probably skip the Preakness, no? That will leave SS to beat a less-than-stellar and much smaller group...so he'll maybe get leg 2. But leg 3 without as much racing luck? Nope...
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:18 AM
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Except for the fact he was never, ever going to win the Belmont.
Well, if Afleet Alex had fallen in the Preakness, he wouldn't have been back for the Belmont

Giacomo had the lead, and was in hand, after 10 furlongs in the Belmont---it was really the only time in his career when he let off the bit in the stretch, and horses passed him....something seemed amiss, and after surgery, he wouldn't run for another nine months.

Had he won the Preakness via tragedy, everyone would have said that the "racing Gods" stopped him at the 1/4 pole in the Belmont...as he would have been horrendously unworthy.
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Old 05-06-2007, 05:19 AM
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I agree. But the thing is, Hard Spun and Curlin will probably skip the Preakness, no? That will leave SS to beat a less-than-stellar and much smaller group...so he'll maybe get leg 2. But leg 3 without as much racing luck? Nope...
Why would they skip the Preakness....both would appear to have a better shot at beating him going 9.5 furlongs at Pimlico.

If they both skip the Preakness---Chelokee will be the second choice in the betting---and that would be a very sad day for racing.
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