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Old 05-30-2007, 05:19 PM
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I would bet he is one of the top 3 in the ML. I would take him over any American horse at 1 mile. His effort at Keeneland against Showing Up made me a believer. I think the beyer was around 105.
He had a soft trip that day---and beat a horse making his return off a layoff who's since been injured.

I'm not sold on Kip Deville....I realize he got a very moderate ride on Memorial day---but he probably figured to get that kind of ride going in---he's pretty overrated IMO.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:27 PM
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What the hell kind of a name for a horse is Hockey the General?
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:38 PM
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What the hell kind of a name for a horse is Hockey the General?
That horse is a good horse and has a shot to hit the board, just off memory. I hit that horse a couple times recently at the SA meet
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:13 PM
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Nobody mentioned the biggest reason not to bet Kip in this race.....


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Old 05-30-2007, 07:21 PM
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That horse is a good horse and has a shot to hit the board, just off memory. I hit that horse a couple times recently at the SA meet
Good to know.
I have never heard of him before, but all of the horses that I HAVE heard of in this race are certainly vulnerable.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:53 AM
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Kip was boxed in with no place to run until the stretch......but then he was turned loose and he ran hard but was unable to keep up with Becrux and was being passed up by Right Special. With a clear trip, he would have been closer to the winner but doubtful he would have won.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:05 AM
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On paper this is a great race. 5 Grade 1 winners in this race and a field of 12 (right now). Better than most of the crappy 4-horse fields we get so often...

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Old 05-31-2007, 01:37 AM
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What the hell kind of a name for a horse is Hockey the General?

Is he trained by Baffert?? Thanks in advance..
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Old 05-31-2007, 04:04 AM
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I'll take Boboman in this spot.
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Old 05-31-2007, 04:57 AM
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Kip was boxed in with no place to run until the stretch......but then he was turned loose and he ran hard but was unable to keep up with Becrux and was being passed up by Right Special. With a clear trip, he would have been closer to the winner but doubtful he would have won.
I agree 100%
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:56 AM
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On paper this is a great race. 5 Grade 1 winners in this race and a field of 12 (right now). Better than most of the crappy 4-horse fields we get so often...

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From a betting perspective, you are absolutely correct. This is a good race.
From a field-quality perspective, I would say it is just okay. That "five G1 winners" stat you mentioned is a bit misleading since Buzzard's Bay's G1 win came in '05, Wilko's in '04, and Perfect Drift's in '03. None of them have been G1 winners either this year or last year.
It is still a very nice field for a G2, but it isn't exactly the quality you might expect when you have five G1 winners in one race.
Also, who is the fifth (other than the three I mentioned and Kip Deville) G1 winner in this field? I can't think of it.
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Also, who is the fifth (other than the three I mentioned and Kip Deville) G1 winner in this field? I can't think of it.
Boboman won the G1 Hollywood Turf Cup in '06.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:20 AM
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Boboman won the G1 Hollywood Turf Cup in '06.
Thanks......and welcome to the board.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:29 AM
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Thanks......and welcome to the board.
Thanks, happy to be here.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:43 AM
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Buzzard's Bay wins that race for fun, bunch of rats, Kip Deville isn't a 9 furlong horse anyways
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:13 PM
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Buzzard's Bay wins that race for fun, bunch of rats, Kip Deville isn't a 9 furlong horse anyways

Hope you crushed him Scavy.
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