Street Sense to skip Belmont - Page 2

estreetposse · #21 05-30-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Estreet, what makes you think the distance of the Stephan Foster will be better for Street Sense than the Belmont?

Maybe it won't be, buddy ol' pal, just thought a little drop in distance at a track he does well at might help out rather than running 1 1/2 at a track he' s never seen & a distance that he'll most likely never...ever...see in his probable shortened career.

King Glorious · #22 05-30-2007, 10:50 PM

Plus, he'd get a ton of weight from the older horses in the Foster. I think because of the weight factor, the extra week, the fact that it's at Churchill, and the fact that there isn't much in the older horse division to scare u outside of Invasor........the Foster would be the perfect spot. I think that if Curlin were to win the Belmont and Street Sense beat older in a grade one, it would put Street Sense in the lead at this point for top 3yo honors. The purse is not bad either and it's at a distance that we know he can handle on a track that we know he likes as opposed to two unknowns in the Belmont.

estreetposse · #23 05-31-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I see it's going to be like that. Okay. I tried.

Sorry to be a piss pot, thought you were gonna start things up again even after I agreed with you(especially about SS!!) I think running him back at CD and then on to Monmouth would be a good route for his connections to take.

I also agree with what KG says.

slotdirt · #24 05-31-2007, 09:12 AM

I'm sorry, I must be in the minority here, but I'm still chuckling at the thought of Street Sense heading to the Stephen Foster to take on older horses.

ArlJim78 · #25 05-31-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'm sorry, I must be in the minority here, but I'm still chuckling at the thought of Street Sense heading to the Stephen Foster to take on older horses.

Beside the fact that it would be an unusual move for a three year old, what is so funny about it? Would Street Sense be horribly outclassed by Master Command or Magna Graduate? I'm pretty sure he would have a nice weight break. I guess I don't get what is so funny about it. Even though I know he will not run in the race I'm reasonably confident that under the circumstances he wouldn't have much trouble winning it.

slotdirt · #26 05-31-2007, 09:46 AM

I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.

Cajungator26 · #27 05-31-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.

I think it depends on which older horse we're talking about...

slotdirt · #28 05-31-2007, 09:50 AM

Do you guys really think Street Sense is that good that he'll whoop up on whatever handicap horses show up for the Stephen Foster on June 16th? Unless it's some serious chumps, I wouldn't bet a nickel on him to be in the money. Master Command and Magna Graduate are two pretty good horses and at this point in their respective careers, would both have to be favored over Street Sense on a fair track.

ArlJim78 · #29 05-31-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I guess I am the only one who thinks that there's a huge difference between a 3YO in June of his 3YO season and an older horse regardless of weight.

in general yes, but aren't we comparing an exceptional 3yo against some rather ho-hum older horses? I mean if you're talking about stand-out classy older horse like Invasor, sure it would be folly to engage him at this point. But these others, to me they're just the best of what's currently around but not any monsters.

ArlJim78 · #30 05-31-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Do you guys really think Street Sense is that good that he'll whoop up on whatever handicap horses show up for the Stephen Foster on June 16th? Unless it's some serious chumps, I wouldn't bet a nickel on him to be in the money. Master Command and Magna Graduate are two pretty good horses and at this point in their respective careers, would both have to be favored over Street Sense on a fair track.

Not saying for sure he would whoop up on them, but he'd be competitive and frankly I think he might be the favorite.

slotdirt · #31 05-31-2007, 10:01 AM

Betting favorite? He surely would be, absolutely.

philcski · #32 05-31-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Betting favorite? He surely would be, absolutely.

Hypothetically speaking, if he were to go off as the favorite (which I'd agree he would be), why is it such a preposterous idea?

Several 3YO's have won the Met Mile against elders, don't know about the Foster w/ 3YO's but I think it's not the craziest thought if they decide the Belmont isn't the right spot.

robfla · #33 05-31-2007, 10:49 AM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/85392.html

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Trainer Carl Nafzger announced at a Thursday morning press conference at Churchill Downs that Street Sense would pass the June 9 Belmont Stakes and instead be pointed for the Travers Stakes at Saratoga, with either the Jim Dandy or Haskell serving as a possible prep race.

Nafzger said that he and Street Sense's owner, Jim Tafel, made the decision jointly after a two-hour discussion Wednesday night.

Buffymommy · #34 05-31-2007, 10:51 AM

I guess they are thinking of their horse first. I know the fans are going to be disappointed and angry, but it is their horse.

Besides, they are probably afraid of Tizzy!

SuffolkGirl · #35 05-31-2007, 10:51 AM

While I was looking forward to Curlin, Street Sense and Hard Spun to contest the Belmont I trust they have made the right decision for the horse. I look forward to seeing SS run later this year.

hockey2315 · #36 05-31-2007, 11:05 AM

What a joke. . . The first triple crown race I'll ever see in person just got a lot less interesting. . .

justindew · #37 05-31-2007, 11:07 AM

Louis Quatorze ran in all three legs of the Triple Crown, then won the Jim Dandy and almost won the Travers before missing by a nose in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

It's a sad day when a Kentucky Derby winner, who is training well, can't be expected to keep the same schedule as Louis Quatorze.

#38 05-31-2007, 11:14 AM

Looks like Nafzger didn't want to make the same mistake twice (Unbridled)

Good for him.

Cajungator26 · #39 05-31-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

Louis Quatorze ran in all three legs of the Triple Crown, then won the Jim Dandy and almost won the Travers before missing by a nose in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

It's a sad day when a Kentucky Derby winner, who is training well, can't be expected to keep the same schedule as Louis Quatorze.

Two different horses. I would hope that Nafzger knows what is best for his horses.

King Glorious · #40 05-31-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

Louis Quatorze ran in all three legs of the Triple Crown, then won the Jim Dandy and almost won the Travers before missing by a nose in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

It's a sad day when a Kentucky Derby winner, who is training well, can't be expected to keep the same schedule as Louis Quatorze.

That was back in 1996. That seems like an eternity. The game has changed drastically in the past 10 years. Since then, u've had Medaglia d'Oro run in all three, win the two Saratoga races and run in the BC. We've had War Emblem and Funny Cide run in all three and run in the BC. Anymore or is that it?