NBA Draft - Page 2

whodey17 · #21 06-29-2007, 12:24 PM

Danny Ainge is an idiot. I am not a big Celtics fan, but why on earth would you want Ray Allen who will be 32 with multiple injuries instead of Jeff Green. Then they draft a guard that will compete with Rondo for the starting point. People in Boston have got to be pissed. Kudos to Atlanta for a fine draft. Even though they have about 1 million forwards, they can always trade 1 or 2 away.

Side note to ESPN - GET RID OF STEPHEN A SMITH. He is just awful.

whodey17 · #22 06-29-2007, 12:25 PM

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Billy Bob Thorton is a dead ringer for Mitch Kupchak if Kupchak started drinking heavily, stopped showering and shrunk 2 feet.

Didnt you just describe Beyer and Crist?

Cannon Shell · #23 06-29-2007, 12:35 PM

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Didnt you just describe Beyer and Crist?

They dont have that edginess needed like Kupchak does. I kept thinking when they were interviewing him that Kobe was going to jump out and hammer him over the head with a folding chair, WWF style.

Cannon Shell · #24 06-29-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

Danny Ainge is an idiot. I am not a big Celtics fan, but why on earth would you want Ray Allen who will be 32 with multiple injuries instead of Jeff Green. Then they draft a guard that will compete with Rondo for the starting point. People in Boston have got to be pissed. Kudos to Atlanta for a fine draft. Even though they have about 1 million forwards, they can always trade 1 or 2 away.

Side note to ESPN - GET RID OF STEPHEN A SMITH. He is just awful.

It may not be as bad a deal as you think. If/When the Celts are out of the playoff picture there are plenty of teams that may desire Allen for a legit playoff run (can you say Cavs?). The biggest thing that they did was trade Wally and his idiotic contract which frees up a lot of cap space for them that they were stuck with through 2009. (26 mill I believe). They still have Radcliff's expiring contract to deal and at least Allen will be marketable if and when they need to deal him. Plus you keep Pierce occupied during the offseason.

whodey17 · #25 06-29-2007, 12:49 PM

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It may not be as bad a deal as you think. If/When the Celts are out of the playoff picture there are plenty of teams that may desire Allen for a legit playoff run (can you say Cavs?). The biggest thing that they did was trade Wally and his idiotic contract which frees up a lot of cap space for them that they were stuck with through 2009. (26 mill I believe). They still have Radcliff's expiring contract to deal and at least Allen will be marketable if and when they need to deal him. Plus you keep Pierce occupied during the offseason.

I wonder if Wally was the key in this trade happening. The Celts prob told the Sonics that they have to take Wally if they want Green. I hope everything works out OK for both teams. I love when Boston is in the hunt because their fans are so enjoyable to make fun of.

Cannon Shell · #26 06-29-2007, 01:15 PM

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I wonder if Wally was the key in this trade happening. The Celts prob told the Sonics that they have to take Wally if they want Green. I hope everything works out OK for both teams. I love when Boston is in the hunt because their fans are so enjoyable to make fun of.

I think Ainge just wanted out of that unmovable contract. Allen has a big contract but he has actual value because he is a good player. Wally is a 13 million dollar mistake. The Celts picked two pretty good guys in the 2nd round including Davis from LSU with Seattles pick.

Mortimer · #27 06-29-2007, 01:40 PM

I just wish Stern would ,just once, say something like ...."and with the 1st pick of the NBA draft the New York Knicks select .....OH MY GOD..

....THUD!"

#28 06-29-2007, 09:02 PM

Apparently Stephen A. Smith, Spike Lee, and Isiah Thomas are all good buds. This should scare the crud out of Knicks fans. They appear to be jubilant over a trade allowing them to get Zach Randolph. Getting rid of Francis was good, but Randolph is a huge gamble I guess they had to make. This guy is a head case with 4 years left on a contract over 60 million, and they are happy over clearing some room by getting rid of Francis... the Blazers will be done with him in one year.

And Stephen A, and Spike crooning over "zeek" was just sickening. Isiah is going to get along great with Randolph. Two guys with the inability to control themselves in NY??????????? Holy crud this could be fireworks. This really makes the NBA season interesting. I am very much looking forward to next season. Portland may be very tough for a good while.

Cannon Shell · #29 06-29-2007, 09:21 PM

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Apparently Stephen A. Smith, Spike Lee, and Isiah Thomas are all good buds. This should scare the crud out of Knicks fans. They appear to be jubilant over a trade allowing them to get Zach Randolph. Getting rid of Francis was good, but Randolph is a huge gamble I guess they had to make. This guy is a head case with 4 years left on a contract over 60 million, and they are happy over clearing some room by getting rid of Francis... the Blazers will be done with him in one year.

And Stephen A, and Spike crooning over "zeek" was just sickening. Isiah is going to get along great with Randolph. Two guys with the inability to control themselves in NY??????????? Holy crud this could be fireworks. This really makes the NBA season interesting. I am very much looking forward to next season. Portland may be very tough for a good while.

Both of them?

#30 06-29-2007, 09:32 PM

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Both of them?

Its good for the NBA for NY to have a good basketball team. And Stephen A, and Spike are the two fans... very sad. Well at least they stick with the team. But at sometime they have got to realize Isiah was a great player. Stop. Dont make him out to be more than that.

The closet Knick fans will emerge. It just does not look too good right now. At least they tried something. But all this talk about clearing cap room and then they get Randolph? Maybe there is some clause in his contract. I know Portland was happy to clear some cap room by getting rid of him.

Cannon Shell · #31 06-29-2007, 10:04 PM

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Its good for the NBA for NY to have a good basketball team. And Stephen A, and Spike are the two fans... very sad. Well at least they stick with the team. But at sometime they have got to realize Isiah was a great player. Stop. Dont make him out to be more than that.

The closet Knick fans will emerge. It just does not look too good right now. At least they tried something. But all this talk about clearing cap room and then they get Randolph? Maybe there is some clause in his contract. I know Portland was happy to clear some cap room by getting rid of him.

My name is Cannon Shell And I am a Knicks fan. I understand that they are doomed to eternity in non lottery/non playoffs hell due to Isiah and and his daddy, Dolan. I accept this and now join the other Knick fans in-exile in hoping that Randolph and Starbury dont get into any Steven Jackson incidents at Scores.

They got rid of a bad contract and a mediocre big man and got a 24 -10 guy who is still young. After collecting shooting point guards with terrible contracts, at least Isiah changed his focus to post men. Maybe Marvin Webster and Lonny Shelton can be dug up too. Forgive me for my cynical remarks but this is the first positive move the Knicks have made on purpose in about 10 years.

King Glorious · #32 07-03-2007, 11:52 AM

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The steal of the draft will be whoever drafts Aaron Brooks from Oregon. Guy was made to play in the NBA. Plays similar to Daniel Gibson, another undersized scorer that wound up going late in the draft. Though he really reminds me of Rod Strickland who everybody forgets was a really good player who played for lousy teams and got himself into trouble all the time.

I like Brooks. He's got a gift for scoring the ball and he's got a lot of talent. I am worried about his game fitting into the NBA though. While watching him play, it seemed to me that he improved a ton when they started using Porter at the point. Brooks never seemed like a natural at that position and I'm afraid that he'd have to be in the NBA because there just isn't a really big market for 6'0 shooting guards. As I said, he can play so I'm pretty sure he can make a team and contribute a little something but I don't think he'll have a really big impact.

King Glorious · #33 07-03-2007, 12:03 PM

The Knicks/Blazers trade makes no sense at all to me. I don't understand why they never went to Seattle and tried to work out a sign and trade with Lewis. That would have been perfect for both teams. I understand that they wanted to get rid of Randolph and that he's more of a numbers guy than an impact guy but he's still 23+ and 10+ a night. Those guys just aren't growing on trees. To give him away for basically nothing makes no sense at all. They are going to buy out Francis' contract so they traded Randolph for Channing Fry. U've got to be kidding me. Surely, there was more out there that they could have gotten for Randolph. For the Knicks, I don't understand it much either. Who really believes that Curry and Randolph can exist on the same court? Not I. Also, Randolph is a guy that found trouble in Indiana and in Portland. I'm not sure but I think trouble can be found in NYC.

Cannon Shell · #34 07-03-2007, 12:25 PM

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The Knicks/Blazers trade makes no sense at all to me. I don't understand why they never went to Seattle and tried to work out a sign and trade with Lewis. That would have been perfect for both teams. I understand that they wanted to get rid of Randolph and that he's more of a numbers guy than an impact guy but he's still 23+ and 10+ a night. Those guys just aren't growing on trees. To give him away for basically nothing makes no sense at all. They are going to buy out Francis' contract so they traded Randolph for Channing Fry. U've got to be kidding me. Surely, there was more out there that they could have gotten for Randolph. For the Knicks, I don't understand it much either. Who really believes that Curry and Randolph can exist on the same court? Not I. Also, Randolph is a guy that found trouble in Indiana and in Portland. I'm not sure but I think trouble can be found in NYC.

For the Knicks the trade makes sense in that they got a valuble player for the cap space where Francis for the money he was making was a nonproductive asset. They had to give up Frye but he would not be compatable with the Curry/Randolph combination anyway. Portland needed to get Randolph out of town asap and there were probably no takers given that the whole league knew this. At least they were able to free up cap space by buying out the Francis contract and getting rid of ZR's contract. Getting Frye was a bonus. A case of addition by subtraction. There are so few teams with cap space that it is very hard to make deals.