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Old 07-05-2007, 12:14 PM
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About six months ago, back when "He Who Must Not Be Named" (i.e., Oracle) was still here, I started a thread on a topic close to this one. Some interesting thoughts were expressed:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7997
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:08 PM
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You took all of that out of that sentence. Wow. I also disagree with what you are saying.
Most pros wouldn't. . . I can quote "Six Secrets of Successful Bettors" if you'd like. . .
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:39 PM
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I know of at least one and maybe two on this board that make a living at it. Obviously they don't wish to chime in. I think I could do it being very good with numbers, but I don't wish to spend 16 hours a day every day trying. You can't treat handicapping as a second job.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:48 PM
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Without offending professionals, I think this debate is merely a matter of semantics.

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Old 07-05-2007, 02:55 PM
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I'm still wondering how you got a paragraph description out of a one sentence answer.
What else could he/she have been saying?
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:59 PM
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You can quote whatever you'd like, or give it whatever name you'd like. A professional horseplayer makes a living gambling. Hence, they are a gambler. I'm still wondering how you got a paragraph description out of a one sentence answer. You're pretty good. Let's see if you can guess the number I am thinking of. 3 guesses. Go.
rephrase, A professional horseplayer makes a living investing.

What is the difference between a stock trader (buying and selling shares in a company) and a professional horse player (buying shares in a horse for 1-2 minutes)?
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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You're kidding right? I know saying you are a gambler may be taboo or whatever, but we all gamble. Period.
WE all gamble, the professionals invest.

There is a difference between gambling and investing.

When I gamble, I am pissing money away for the juice and capping with 2mtp

When I invest, I carefully calculate my risk and plan out my attack, sometimes 3-4 days in advance.

Like today until Saturday night, it is investing time. I have 6 plays that I am dropping a dime on each of them. If I hit 3 of them I will be even, if I hit 5 of them I will turn 6k into about 16k....PARTY TIME HOSS, PARTY TIME
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:20 PM
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Are day traders in the stock market investors or are they gamblers???

Me thinks they are at least partly gamblers...as imho is anyone who tries to make a living playing the ponies...
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:20 PM
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I've been cold lately, too - feel like I could "tri-box-all" an Australian field of 14 2-year-olds and still lose.

At first I wondered if it was only the three-year-old races (as they often take huge jump-ups in ability during the summer), but nah, it's everything. I'm still handicapping the same. It's not synthetic surfaces. Didn't go through a summer slump last year, so don't know, but yeah, I've noticed a difference in my bottom line ....
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:28 PM
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Anyone know the going rate, so to speak, for how much a professional horseplayer pushes through the windows each year?

I know this dude whom a mutual friend introduced to Charlie Heyward at a NYC OTB/restaurant, and he is talking about takeout with Charlie and says, " I wager about 12 million a year..."

Holy sh-t! My jaw hit the floor.
I think I'd have to push at least half a million through the windows a year, to make 100K
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:32 PM
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I think I'd have to push at least half a million through the windows a year, to make 100K

If I had a 1/2 million to push through the windows, I wouldnt need to bet the horses.
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:51 PM
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I'd pursue my dream of following the pro-golf tour year-round ....
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:53 PM
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I'd pursue my dream of following the pro-golf tour year-round ....

following...or playing?
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:56 PM
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I love golf. I watch golf every chance I get, read all the golf magazines I can, and made a point of visiting St Andrews when I could. I have never played! Once I hit a bucket of balls ... It's weird
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:58 PM
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I love golf. I watch golf every chance I get, read all the golf magazines I can, and made a point of visiting St Andrews when I could. I have never played! Once I hit a bucket of balls ... It's weird

1/2 million of disposable income...I would drop everything and give it 5-6 years and see if I could make it to the tour...at least to say that I gave it a shot.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:01 PM
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Wish for you that you could ... everyone should get the chance to try for their dream.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:03 PM
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Wish for you that you could ... everyone should get the chance to try for their dream.

If I ever make it...you could be my first, and most likely only, groupie
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Senior tour???? You'll have more time to prepare.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:05 PM
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Senior tour???? You'll have more time to prepare.

15 1/2 years....I better get started now

and hope that Tiger still aint playing
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:07 PM
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If I ever make it...you could be my first, and most likely only, groupie
I'd do that for you - I'd recruit some young, cute things for you, too!
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