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Old 07-17-2007, 02:41 AM
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Well, Sumwon never went through a Fasig-Tipton or Keeneland (well, I had to check, anyway ) sale, other than the time Chuck purchased her from R & G Stables LLC this year.

Her dam, Mysterious Moll, was at Classic Star LLC in KY. Moll was sold in the Classic Star dispersal at the November Selected Mixed Sale at Fasig-Tipton KY November 5, 2006, for $67,000 to Jack Werk, agent.

As Sumwon is listed as bred by Classic Star, I imagine then that she was sold privately off the farm here in KY. I doubt she was pinhooked, but you never know. Who knows where she was broken and trained before coming to R & G, who raced her.

The best thing might be that, if somebody here knows Pinzon at Turfway, to simply ask
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:33 AM
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what kind of TG and beyer numbers came from the iowa oaks, mother goose and delaware oaks?
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:52 AM
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As Sumwon is listed as bred by Classic Star, I imagine then that she was sold privately off the farm here in KY. I doubt she was pinhooked, but you never know. Who knows where she was broken and trained before coming to R & G, who raced her. The best thing might be that, if somebody here knows Pinzon at Turfway, to simply ask
SUMWON'S BACKGROUND

I can get this information from Pat Hammond of Pont Street Stables in NY. The Pont St. crew owned and campaigned Molly as I've said, and they followed her closely after they sold her in foal for $230,000 in a mixed sale. She red-bagged that foal (MRLS) which I believe was by Silver Deputy.

I invited the Pont Streeters in to Dee Tee and only my friend, Animal Planet celebrity vet Dr. John Charos came aboard. I saw Moll run several times as I became friendly with the Stable, including an inadvertant stop at Laurel the day she won the Martha Washington in a gallop. Spent a fair amount of time near her at the Del Carroll shed as well, and while Sumwonlovesyou has many of her physical characteristics, she is nothing like her high strung dam.

'MOLLY'S' CAREER

Mysterious Moll, the 1998 Florida-bred of the Year, was an edgy, nervous horse as a runner and trainee. Pat Hammond had a pre-race routine with her that included placing wet diapers on top her shoulders and hind end to soothe and calm her. As I recall, Del has said she she was a bitch to train. Jose Espinoza rode her most, though he forgot his work papers the day of the Martha Washington and the MJC wouldn't let him ride so Rick Wilson picked up the mount. Carroll reminded me Belmont Week when I updated him on Sumwon's progress that Molly took to the grass when they came to Saratoga after he breezed her on it as a bit of a lark at at the Oklahoma.

THE TG NUMBER AND WHAT MAY LIE AHEAD

The Thoro-Graph figure SWLY received for last Wednesday's run is outstanding news. As a slight new top off the 45 day break and on the Poly, it gives an indication that Sumwon has another forward move in her yet to come, as she was not at an absolute fitness peak for the effort. Chuck estimates that she was likely about 80-85% fit for Wednesday. Given her pattern off the KEE-CD-CD string of starts, there is reason to believe she may deliver top efforts in her next start or two. After that, Chuck has indicated that he would like to give her a 75-90 day break for the late fall before starting again at Fair Grounds with a winter campaign to begin her 4yo year.

COULD WE HAVE BEEN MORE FORTUNATE?

Our luck landing Sumwonlovesyou as the first Dee Tee acquisition is frankly beyond belief. As has been said repeatedly, it is marker of Chuck's savvy as a bloodstock evaluator and horseman. And as I've also discussed, my own pleasure and satisfaction of being involved with a daughter of Mysterious Moll is extensive. My interest in the game was galvinized by being around the Pont St. gang and Del Carroll at that time, so having any role in this particular horse's racing career is especially serendipitous...

Seeing how much fun everyone is having being a part of Sumwon is exactly what Chuck and I were hoping for with the formation of Dee Tee. While it could 'go south' at the drop of a hat, I'd like to think that all following her exploits have already received more excitement and experience than anticipated. I certainly have..
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:05 AM
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Steve,

Thanks for the outstanding post.

$500 for what has already been an outstanding experience has been a bargin of a life time and, yes, we have gotten way more than expected.

When you add Sumwon, the new friends, and getting to know you all together, it's been quite an adventure for us and quite an accomplishment for you and Chuck.

I'm really getting tired of thanking you but it is so well diserved.

Spyder

PS: Late on your show someone was asking about Saratoga motels. I usually stay at the Community Court next to Holiday Inn, it's easy if not beautiful to walk to the track, clean and about $165 a night.

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Old 07-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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Steve,

Is she going to get another try on the grass? I'm not so sure the Keeneland race was a true measure of her grass ability...unless the jock said she hated it.

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Old 07-17-2007, 11:32 AM
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Steve - Thanks for additional info. Great post. I swear I could read that stuff all day.

Bigs - I recall reading that Graham commented, he thought she took fine to the surface at Keeneland (Grass). I sure would like to see her give it another try somewhere down the line.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:41 AM
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I like the plans Chuck has for our girl Sumwon, especially the break before starting next year's campaign

As Spyder said, to Steve and Chuck: we've all said thank you many times, but it continues to be well-deserved and most heartfelt.

It's fun reviewing her pedigree, following other Came Home babies, speculating on Sumwon's past experiences.

It's educational to see how Chuck and Cherie have worked with Sumwon to bring her full potential towards fruition.

It's been neat to see Sumwon's personality blossoming, to be able to stop by and visit her and give Sum her much-loved peppermints and a pat on the nose.

It's exciting to see the entire board handicapping her races, arguing over how well she'll do, and why.

And of course, becoming friends with folks I didn't know a year ago, all of us sharing Sumwon with each other - the best!

Now the question is ... will Chuck notice anything "interesting and affordable" at the Fasig-Tipton sale today?!
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:03 PM
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I like the plans Chuck has for our girl Sumwon, especially the break before starting next year's campaign

As Spyder said, to Steve and Chuck: we've all said thank you many times, but it continues to be well-deserved and most heartfelt.

It's fun reviewing her pedigree, following other Came Home babies, speculating on Sumwon's past experiences.

It's educational to see how Chuck and Cherie have worked with Sumwon to bring her full potential towards fruition.

It's been neat to see Sumwon's personality blossoming, to be able to stop by and visit her and give Sum her much-loved peppermints and a pat on the nose.

It's exciting to see the entire board handicapping her races, arguing over how well she'll do, and why.

And of course, becoming friends with folks I didn't know a year ago, all of us sharing Sumwon with each other - the best!

Now the question is ... will Chuck notice anything "interesting and affordable" at the Fasig-Tipton sale today?!
A lot of interesting but not much affordable
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Sumwon's start and origins

I printed off Sumwon's lifetime activity log from YouBet (who stinks right now, they have not had the Saratoga feed either yesterday or today)

I don't know what training center "TTC" is - anyone? From earliest to most recent:

workout 7-25-06 TTC 3f D FT 36.60B 2nd/9
workout 8-05-06 ELP 3f D FT 37.00Bg 1st/9
No official activity 45+ days or more
workout 10-7-06 TTC 4f D FT 50.80B 18th/34
workout 10-14-06 TTC 3f D FT 37.00B 1st/14
workout 10-25-06 TTC 5f D FT 1:03.00 3rd/5

first race at CD 11-01-06 MCL 30,000 6f dirt, finish 7, 5-6w, empty in lane
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:21 PM
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I printed off Sumwon's lifetime activity log from YouBet (who stinks right now, they have not had the Saratoga feed either yesterday or today)

I don't know what training center "TTC" is - anyone?
The Thoroughbred Center in Lexington.
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:10 PM
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THANKS for the continued research ! Reading charts was very pleased to see a Came Home filly gamely set a new track record at MNR in the Senate Cup at 1.70 on the turf, final time 1.38.14

Beautiful Venue - Came Home/Avenue Shopper-Avenue of the Flags, a Miller homebred, birth date 4/4/04, gee that date looks familiar huh

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...R080407USA.pdf

watched the replays of all Sumwon's races have on dvr last nite - am getting PSYCHED ! good luck and safe trip to our girl..
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