The Whitney

[fpsoxfan]

It is certainly a nice field. I just hope the weather is O.K. The weather is supposed to be very tropical with the chance of heavy downpours. I hope (even though there isn't many Saturday) everything stays on the turf.

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

[ninetoone]

back up the trucks...

[robfla]

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Flashy Bull Garcia Alan McLaughlin Kiaran P 118 L 4-1
2 2 Papi Chullo Coa E M Contessa Gary C 115 L 9-2
3 3 Brass Hat Martinez W Bradley William 118 L 20-1
4 4 Fairbanks Migliore R Pletcher Todd A 116 L 20-1
5 5 Wanderin Boy Bejarano R Zito Nicholas P 117 L 20-1
6 6 Sun King Nakatani C S Zito Nicholas P 117 L 12-1
7 7 Magna Graduate Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 118 L 7-2
8 8 Student Council Albarado R J Howard Neil J 115 L 30-1
9 9 Diamond Stripes Prado E S Dutrow, Jr. R E 116 L 5-1
10 10 Dry Martini Velasquez C Tagg Barclay 117 L 15-1
11 11 Lawyer Ron Velazquez J R Pletcher Todd A 118 L 6-1
12 12 Awesome Twist Castellano J J Kimmel John C 114 L 15-1

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by philcski

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

look again

[gamblin4ever]

M/L odds on drf

Dry Martini is 15/1
Brass Hat = 20/1
Papi Chullo = 9/2
Flashy Bull = 4/1

Looks like some good value in here,also P4 looks good

[letswastemoney]

Brass Hat had a 98 beyer last time. It was nothing special. He broke the track record on a souped up surface.

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Brass Hat had a 98 beyer last time. It was nothing special. He broke the track record on a souped up surface.

Off a year layoff and a 36 year old record to boot. I'm not saying he should be the favorite but he should, at the very least, be considered in the top 5 for this race. 20-1 makes is seem like there is an east coast bias...oh wait nvmd.

[whodey17]

I think Sun King and Brass Hat should be reversed. But again, these are m/l odds. I am sure that Brass Hat will go off lower than 15-1.

[ninetoone]

If he goes off at 20-1 or higher, beers are on me at Breeder's Cup

[Payson Dave]

Contessa worked Papi Chullo 3f this morning...seemed to me that he was getting out on the turn...37.43 was ninth best of fifteen....Tagg had a un-raced, un-named,2yo FuPeg filly that worked in company ok

[Payson Dave]

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[KY_Sasquash]

Lawyer Ron

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by FGFan

If he keeps on his new track I think Papi Chullo will be very competitive. He has had quite a turnaround with the new connections, I've always liked him.
What a nice field, should be very good race.
All the those stake races are nice, decent fields expect for the 9th, and even that one looks competitive.

Papi C goes back quite a ways with me, or rather, one of my partners that he slammed into the stall wall. Broke a bunch of his ribs, and made him take nine months off from riding.
I think Papi will do something, that mean sonofabitch.
I also like Flashy Bull for an ex (or box) and I'm figuring Diamond Stripes under in a tri. Nothing final at this point.
There should be some great betting value in this race.
GRL

[miraja2]

The Whitney always make me think of the 1999 rendition of the race.
It was certainly one of the best races of the last 10 years with two multiple-G1 winners (Victory Gallop and Behrens) battling to the wire. Victory Gallop's move on the 2nd turn that day was one of those moves that you just never forget.
I'm glad that it is available on youtube now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf7UIKALfM8

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by philcski

That is a truly absurd line. He will be 3rd choice, at worst.

He's run one race in 13 months and as said a 98 Beyer all out to beat the great Student Council, also in this race. I think he has a shot...and could move forward, but most in the race have done more than him this year so far. I think those odds are about right I think.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

He's run one race in 13 months and as said a 98 Beyer all out to beat the great Student Council, also in this race. I think he has a shot...and could move forward, but most in the race have done more than him this year so far. I think those odds are about right I think.

I agree. If we are going to judge them by the distant past, let's bring Alysheba back and make him 8/5. Based on what's known at this point, I'd say he should be over 15/1.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

If i'm not mistaken, I believe Steve said on ATR today that the morning line on Brass Hat is 20-1. LOL!! I hope he stays at or above those odds on Saturday. What a ridiculous morning line for a horse with his credentials.

From what I've seen, you're lucky to get 20-1 in the BC Classic futures pools on Brass Hat. I got find a bookie if that line stays the same...

[jpops757]

Brass hat surly has had some issues but I think Buff and Brass Hat are trying to tell you he is back. Invasors rretirement added to his soundness.