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08-10-2007, 04:49 PM
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Coral bookmakers have him listed at 50-1 to win on sunday and follow up by winning the Arc and BCC..
Anyway, I think they are pointing him towards the Arc and will decide after if he can take the BCC. AT least he is in the right hands. Fabre knows what it takes. I believe that you need a tough horse to take to dirt and Manduro certainly has that profile despite his breeding (well not too many Monsuns have tried dirt Im sure!). He should win on Sunday with the aid of a pacemaker. He's much better than last year!!
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08-10-2007, 05:17 PM
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As you say i doubt many, if any Monsun's have tried dirt. It's got that he handles faster ground, because most of them need it softer than soft usually. I'd love to see him in the BCC, i think a strongly run 10 furlongs will be his best trip. I'm not convinced that 12 furlongs will suit him that well.
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08-12-2007, 12:15 AM
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08-12-2007, 11:29 AM
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 MANDURO BAGS MAROIS PRIZE By PA Sport Staff Manduro enhanced his already tall reputation with an impressive victory in the Prix Jacques le Marois at Deauville. The five-year-old showed he was not inconvenienced by the drop back to a mile by storming to an easy victory in the Group One event. Taking over from his pacemaker Toylsome, Andre Fabre's charge swept clear inside the final furlong to score from Holocene with Turtle Bowl third. Toylsome set a strong gallop from the outset as planned, with Manduro close up and travelling well for Stephane Pasquier. It was a matter of how far once Pasquier pressed the button, as Manduro made amends for his narrow defeat by Librettist in this race 12 months ago and secured a fourth win in as many starts this season. Turtle Bowl put in a brave effort but he was fighting a losing battle and was collared close home by Holocene for second spot. French Derby winner Lawman was most disappointing, trailing in last of the six runners. Paul Harley, racing manager to owner Baron Georg von Ullmann, said: "The Arc has always been the plan and it is very much the plan now. "This horse is extremely versatile and he is an exceptional horse. We planned for this race and he has delivered." Pasquier added: "He was really impressive and he won easily. Once he won at Royal Ascot, I realised the Arc was a very much a possibility." VC Bet have cut Manduro to 4-1 second favourite from 6-1 for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, while William Hill are slightly longer at 5-1. Coral also clipped him into 5-1 from 7s while Ladbrokes go 6-1. "Andre Fabre believes this horse is capable of winning big prizes over three distances on two surfaces, and it's mission accomplished as far as leg one is concerned," said Coral's David Stevens. Last edited by my miss storm cat : 08-12-2007 at 12:03 PM.
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08-12-2007, 12:16 PM
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So one more thing AJ... this means that Soldier Hollow, Librettist (who beat him 3 times) and Stormy River were the top horses last year since they beat this wunderkind... correct?  Last edited by my miss storm cat : 08-12-2007 at 01:28 PM.
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08-12-2007, 12:21 PM
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08-12-2007, 05:40 PM
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Played cricket all day today, so only saw the closing stages in a replay. Wow, he was impressive, even more impressive than i thought he'd be.
Shame Lawman didn't run up his form because it might have made it a much better finish rather than see Manduro cruise home. He has improved so much on last year. Monsun's tend to improve with age and this boy looks like he is doing it also. He was probably short of top class last year, a mixture of that and unlucky, but he is the real deal now. I'm still not sure how well 12 furlongs will suit him against proven stayers over that distance, but i'd love to see him win the Arc
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08-13-2007, 04:41 AM
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Didn't Fabre say he liked giving him plenty of time between his races? I may be thinking about something else, but i thought i read that somewhere. If that's the case he probably won't go to Monmouth, there are only 20 days between the Arc and the Breeder's Cup this year.
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08-13-2007, 04:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure the Arc is on the 7th and the BC on the 27th. It's quite annoying for several european trainers as quite a few would want to run in both i imagine, but for them to have a hard race in the Arc (an easy race in the Arc isn't possible) and then to be shipped to America and get settled and then have another hard race within 20 days, as i trainer i'd be choosing one or the other, not both.
Trainers are more likely to run in the Arc and then wait for Hong Kong.
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08-13-2007, 08:22 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjcVnf7_0b4 to watch the race and improve your French!!
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08-13-2007, 10:17 AM
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Let me get this straight..... he's now one of the favorites for the Arc cause he beat such illustrious horse such as Holocene and Lawman?
Okaaaay. Nice enough horse who will have a good view of Vodka's behind when she wins the Arc.
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08-13-2007, 02:26 PM
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Oh goodie.... now he has a built-in excuse.
MANDURO COULD HAVE NEW PARTNER By Nick Robson, PA Sport Manduro, officially rated the best horse in Europe, could have a new jockey in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe if Zambezi Sun is in the line-up. Andre Fabre's five-year-old has struck up a fantastic partnership with Stephane Pasquier and the pair are unbeaten in four starts this year, including a hat-trick of Group Ones. However, Pasquier is the retained rider for Prince Khalid Abdullah, owner of Grand Prix de Paris winner Zambezi Sun, and he would be obliged to ride Pascal Bary's three-year-old if he runs in the Arc. "Pasquier is retained by us, not Andre Fabre. If Zambezi Sun runs in the Arc, Pasquier will ride him," said Teddy Grimthorpe, Abdullah's racing manager. "Zambezi Sun is very well and he will run in the Prix Niel at Longchamp on September 16. He will take a near-identical path to Rail Link last year. "He's in very good form. He is pleasing Pascal in everything he is doing and he is developing so we live in hope." Following Manduro's victory in the Prix Jacques le Marois over a mile on Sunday, he has been well-backed with Coral for the Arc, despite the race being run over half a mile further. "Manduro is seen as the world's best racehorse right now and as a result, punters want to be with him regardless of the trip or the surface," said Coral's David Stevens. The Barking firm now have Manduro as 4-1 second favourite for the end of season showpiece.
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08-13-2007, 04:22 PM
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God I hope Jamie gets the mount.....
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