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Old 07-05-2006, 08:06 PM
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LMFAO funny he is the goods huh, based on what? him beating a GRADE 3 field if it was even that as a whole in the wood and then in the summer staggering down the lane with the rest of them.......nobodies race in that 1 was good, it was actually a sad sight to watch! the only thing you can say in his defense there is that he was mismanaged and brought into that race the wrong way. ill say it again.........OVERRATED!
You are certainly entitled to your opinion..............hopefully, we'll find out soon!
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:53 PM
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Playa when you win by that many lengths in that time it really doesnt matter who was in there. By the way he beat Scrappy T in that race by about 19 lengths, the same horse Alex beat by about 6 1/2 in the Preakness. Then he runs one of the most incredible 2nd place finishes in history off a layoff injury and only a few works, none father than 5 furlongs. Oh and his rag number was just crazy sick in the Wood. But i guess you make better figs than them, you should start selling them Playa.
He wont do anything with Sexton training him though.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:23 PM
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Playa when you win by that many lengths in that time it really doesnt matter who was in there. By the way he beat Scrappy T in that race by about 19 lengths, the same horse Alex beat by about 6 1/2 in the Preakness. Then he runs one of the most incredible 2nd place finishes in history off a layoff injury and only a few works, none father than 5 furlongs. Oh and his rag number was just crazy sick in the Wood. But i guess you make better figs than them, you should start selling them Playa.
He wont do anything with Sexton training him though.
I agree with Oracle 100%. The horse ran a couple of incredible races last year. That being said, I doubt that we will see the same horse this year. He's very unsound and he doesn't have a good trainer. I still only give him a 50/50 chance to even make it back to the races. Every time he works, he needs 15-20 days to recover. And that's just from working 3 furlongs. Today he worked a half-mile. Who knows when his next work will be.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:29 PM
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Anyone else find it pretty hilarious that playa has a horse he lustily hates on his watch list?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:29 PM
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Trying the Virginia Derby perhaps?...He doesn't have a grass pedigree but Kairan may think that the grass 3yos are softer than the dirt 3yos at this point (especially after he lost to Minister's Bid and Racketeer in an ALLOWANCE)....I'm not close to that camp so I don't know but someone in here should be....Byk would probably know....

Hey, for $1 million in the Va. Derby they may figure to take a shot...What the hell?...Nothing to really lose because this horse probably can't win on the dirt in most of the 3yo stakes on the East coast because the crop is so good....interesting, but the fact is that he'd be 20-1 in the Va. Derby if it turns up as contentious as the Colonial Turf Cup.....
Another intersting turfer is Steppenwolfer, who just worked 1:00 and change over the Belmont turf. I think this could be a good change for him -closers do well on turf and his sire, Aptitude, has sired some pretty talented turf horses. He may run in the Lexington coming up and I look forward to that. What do you think of this move, Joel?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:30 PM
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Anyone else find it pretty hilarious that playa has a horse he lustily hates on his watch list?
I was thinking the same thing...
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:54 PM
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Anyone else find it pretty hilarious that playa has a horse he lustily hates on his watch list?

well if you use equibase youd know why ateam, nice of you to jump in a thread solely to make a smart a$$ remark tho. ahhhhhhh figures figures figures a be all end all i guess huh oracle? i wanna see this horse actually win a grade 1 race with a g1 quality field not having things all his own way, if he can do that ill come here and gladly eat my crow........im still waiting for him to be the second coming of secretariat tho LOL!
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:00 PM
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I agree with Oracle 100%. The horse ran a couple of incredible races last year. That being said, I doubt that we will see the same horse this year. He's very unsound and he doesn't have a good trainer. I still only give him a 50/50 chance to even make it back to the races. Every time he works, he needs 15-20 days to recover. And that's just from working 3 furlongs. Today he worked a half-mile. Who knows when his next work will be.
Most of his issues have been growthy issues...he is such a big horse that when you are that large at three and that fast on top of it...things will naturally occur....I don't think poped splint bones are horrible just need to allow them to heal because they are nagging....they look uglier than they are.....He is now half way through his 4YO year and his growth should have settled past the stage of when he was maturing while being such a large and fast specimen.....The thing I always liked about this colt was that he gave off the impression that he would be better as an older horse based on his physique and yet he was stellar when right at 3.....Hopefully, he has caught up with his body growth at this point now, and can run soundly without his growing bones have to worry about sustaining the weight of his massive physique...I would hope that he mature now all the way around from a physical standpoint...
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:05 PM
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Another intersting turfer is Steppenwolfer, who just worked 1:00 and change over the Belmont turf. I think this could be a good change for him -closers do well on turf and his sire, Aptitude, has sired some pretty talented turf horses. He may run in the Lexington coming up and I look forward to that. What do you think of this move, Joel?
We were discussing this a few weeks back.....I don't know..It may be a good move...he certainly has the running style for grass and like you mentioned his pedigree is sneaky good for the turf....Aptitudes have been fair on the turf with Rick Violette's Apt. colt winning the Hill Rise nicely, and Stepop. is out of a Wolf Power mare which really assists his chances of taking to the grass....my gut feeling though is that he will just be a grinder on the grass will not a big enough closing burst to be top class as a turf horse....obviously, the longer the better for him....I have never been a huge fan of this horse's true ability so it is hard for me to really see him being a star on any surface, but who knows.......I just think you need a little better push-button ability and quick burst and turn of foot to be an effective turf horse nine times out of ten.....looks like we'll see soon though!
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:09 PM
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well if you use equibase youd know why ateam, nice of you to jump in a thread solely to make a smart a$$ remark tho. ahhhhhhh figures figures figures a be all end all i guess huh oracle? i wanna see this horse actually win a grade 1 race with a g1 quality field not having things all his own way, if he can do that ill come here and gladly eat my crow........im still waiting for him to be the second coming of secretariat tho LOL!
Lighten up man. You start a thread solely to bash a horse, and I can't come in solely to "make a smartass remark"?

It's not even a smartass remark. I find it genuinely funny that you bash the horse, yet have him in your virtual stable, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.

And, "if I use equibase, I'd know why"? How does that explain you putting a horse you hate with a passion in your virtual stable?! LOL!
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:13 PM
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i hate NO horse! hes just overrated in my opinion
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