peegardn's college top 10

[King Glorious]

South Florida wasn't even in the polls till what, three weeks ago or so? Now they are the #5 team in the country? I don't buy that. I know how the rankings go when a team loses, they move down and all another team has to do is not lose, no matter who they are playing. But there is just no way in the world that I'll believe South Florida is the fifth best team in the nation right now. They'd be huge underdogs playing Oklahoma, USC, or Florida. Again, understanding how rankings go, sometimes, common sense has to come into play. Florida, yeah they lost but come on. They lost AT LSU, in the final minutes of the game. A quality loss like that shouldn't move a team down. If they hold LSU on one of those fourth down plays, right now Cal is #1 and Florida would be ahead of LSU. Am I to believe that one play is the difference between LSU being 12 spots ahead of Florida and Florida being ahead of LSU? USC, if that receiver doesn't make that great catch for Stanford in the end zone, is still ranked in the top three but one play dropped them down to #10.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

South Florida wasn't even in the polls till what, three weeks ago or so? Now they are the #5 team in the country? I don't buy that. I know how the rankings go when a team loses, they move down and all another team has to do is not lose, no matter who they are playing. But there is just no way in the world that I'll believe South Florida is the fifth best team in the nation right now. They'd be huge underdogs playing Oklahoma, USC, or Florida. Again, understanding how rankings go, sometimes, common sense has to come into play. Florida, yeah they lost but come on. They lost AT LSU, in the final minutes of the game. A quality loss like that shouldn't move a team down. If they hold LSU on one of those fourth down plays, right now Cal is #1 and Florida would be ahead of LSU. Am I to believe that one play is the difference between LSU being 12 spots ahead of Florida and Florida being ahead of LSU? USC, if that receiver doesn't make that great catch for Stanford in the end zone, is still ranked in the top three but one play dropped them down to #10.

Obviously you don't watch college football. Might be best if you refrain from commenting on it in order to avoid looking like a complete buffoon.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Obviously you don't watch college football. Might be best if you refrain from commenting on it in order to avoid looking like a complete buffoon.

Brilliant. Which part, may I ask do u disagree with?

-Do u believe South Florida is really the fifth best team in the country?

-Would u take SF over Florida, USC, or Oklahoma?

-If LSU would have been stopped on that last 4th and 1 and Florida wins the game, do u not believe that Florida would be ranked ahead of LSU today?

-Do u believe that LSU is really 12 spots better than Florida?

-Do u believe that USC would have fallen out of the top three if they had won the game?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Brilliant. Which part, may I ask do u disagree with?

-Do u believe South Florida is really the fifth best team in the country?

-Would u take SF over Florida, USC, or Oklahoma?

-If LSU would have been stopped on that last 4th and 1 and Florida wins the game, do u not believe that Florida would be ranked ahead of LSU today?

-Do u believe that LSU is really 12 spots better than Florida?

-Do u believe that USC would have fallen out of the top three if they had won the game?

THIS ISN'T REALLY HAPPENING.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

-Do u believe South Florida is really the fifth best team in the country?

Yes. If they go undefeated in conference play (which looks like it's going to happen) then they're in the BCS with an undefeated record.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

-Would u take SF over Florida, USC, or Oklahoma?

It depends. Home, Away, Neutral, Injuries, Suspensions, etc.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

-If LSU would have been stopped on that last 4th and 1 and Florida wins the game, do u not believe that Florida would be ranked ahead of LSU today?

But they didn't so it's a moot point.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

-Do u believe that LSU is really 12 spots better than Florida?

Yes. Florida used Tebow early and that's the reason why they were ahead. It was a risky move that backfired and was really the only way Florida had a shot of winning.

Plus Early Doucet was injured. LSU is much better.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

-Do u believe that USC would have fallen out of the top three if they had won the game?

No but I'm here in reality and you're stuck in fantasyland. It didn't happen.

[horseofcourse]

USC shouldn't even be ranked at this point. They lost to a cess pool of a Stanford team. They struggled mightily with a Washington team that OSU hammered. Their signature win was over Nebraska, whom Missouri absolutely pummeled worse than USC did..indicating that USC probably isn't nearly as good as those two teams...granted they are both undefeated and in the top 10 teams...but anyway. They should not be in the top 20...perhaps a 21-35 ranking would be appropriate for them. So the last two years they have lost to Orgon State, UCLA and Stanford. The SC myth is quickly coming to an end. They are not that good. (I'm being a bit melodramatic, great program, but they are completely out of the National Championship picture in my mind even if they beat Cal and the rest of the PAC 10. You lose to Stanford, you should be done.)

[Mortimer]

I think the Browns should have been in the received votes area ....it just shows you how whimsical these polls can be.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

USC shouldn't even be ranked at this point. They lost to a cess pool of a Stanford team. They struggled mightily with a Washington team that OSU hammered. Their signature win was over Nebraska, whom Missouri absolutely pummeled worse than USC did..indicating that USC probably isn't nearly as good as those two teams...granted they are both undefeated and in the top 10 teams...but anyway. They should not be in the top 20...perhaps a 21-35 ranking would be appropriate for them. So the last two years they have lost to Orgon State, UCLA and Stanford. The SC myth is quickly coming to an end. They are not that good. (I'm being a bit melodramatic, great program, but they are completely out of the National Championship picture in my mind even if they beat Cal and the rest of the PAC 10. You lose to Stanford, you should be done.)

However, if not for maybe one play, not only would they be in the top 20, they would still likely be in the top three. I agree that they aren't nearly as good as they have been in and I don't think they are among the top teams in the country this year. But they haven't slipped so far that they are not better than a team like South Florida. I wonder who would fare better, South Florida in USC's conference or vice-versa? Granted, the gap between the majors and the mid-majors is shrinking in football like it is in basketball. Just about any team is vulnerable on any given Saturday. Boise St beats Oklahoma. App St beats Michigan. The gap is shrinking. But on a week in, week out basis, a team like USC is better than South Florida. Florida is better than South Florida. While SF was playing at Florida Atlantic and nearly being upset (they led 28-23 in the final minute), Florida was nearly upsetting the #1 team in the country on the road.

I'm not saying that this week alone should put Florida ahead of South Florida. After all, SF did beat the same Auburn team that beat Florida. SF obviously has a talented team. I just can't see them as being as superior to Florida as the polls would indicate. The practice of automatically dropping down when u lose is silly. Florida's play in the loss was better than 90% of teams play in their wins. The polls always have been and always will be a sham.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

However, if not for maybe one play, not only would they be in the top 20, they would still likely be in the top three. I agree that they aren't nearly as good as they have been in and I don't think they are among the top teams in the country this year. But they haven't slipped so far that they are not better than a team like South Florida. I wonder who would fare better, South Florida in USC's conference or vice-versa? Granted, the gap between the majors and the mid-majors is shrinking in football like it is in basketball. Just about any team is vulnerable on any given Saturday. Boise St beats Oklahoma. App St beats Michigan. The gap is shrinking. But on a week in, week out basis, a team like USC is better than South Florida. Florida is better than South Florida. While SF was playing at Florida Atlantic and nearly being upset (they led 28-23 in the final minute), Florida was nearly upsetting the #1 team in the country on the road.

I'm not saying that this week alone should put Florida ahead of South Florida. After all, SF did beat the same Auburn team that beat Florida. SF obviously has a talented team. I just can't see them as being as superior to Florida as the polls would indicate. The practice of automatically dropping down when u lose is silly. Florida's play in the loss was better than 90% of teams play in their wins. The polls always have been and always will be a sham.

Polls are polls. I don't think South Florida could beat Florida. I actually think one or both of Rutgers and Cincinnati will take care of South Florida. They got a break playing West Virginia when Pat White got hurt and missing most of the game. But the facts remain, they did beat a good West Virginia team and an Auburn team that did beat Florida. I think they deserve their number 5 ranking no matter how good I think they are. A road win at Auburn whom Florida couldn't beat at home and a win over WV speak for themselves. They are where they deserve to be.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Polls are polls. I don't think South Florida could beat Florida. I actually think one or both of Rutgers and Cincinnati will take care of South Florida. They got a break playing West Virginia when Pat White got hurt and missing most of the game. But the facts remain, they did beat a good West Virginia team and an Auburn team that did beat Florida. I think they deserve their number 5 ranking no matter how good I think they are. A road win at Auburn whom Florida couldn't beat at home and a win over WV speak for themselves. They are where they deserve to be.

OOOOOOOOOO

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

OOOOOOOOOO

I think it was more like an...

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Polls are polls. I don't think South Florida could beat Florida. I actually think one or both of Rutgers and Cincinnati will take care of South Florida. They got a break playing West Virginia when Pat White got hurt and missing most of the game. But the facts remain, they did beat a good West Virginia team and an Auburn team that did beat Florida. I think they deserve their number 5 ranking no matter how good I think they are. A road win at Auburn whom Florida couldn't beat at home and a win over WV speak for themselves. They are where they deserve to be.

healthy pat white wouldn't beat USF. USF hit wvu in the mouth a couple times and wvu couldn't handle it.

Originally Posted by ddthetide

healthy pat white wouldn't beat USF. USF hit wvu in the mouth a couple times and wvu couldn't handle it.

I think Auburn is the type of team that tries to play conservative offense, and whup up on D. Lay and wait for other teams to make mistakes. So they can beat teams like Florida and lose to bad teams. USF was not the bad team they lost to.
And I for one think USF can play with any team in the nation if they play well with the possible exception of LSU that will pummel any team if they play well.
I do not think LSU gets to a bowl game undefeated this year.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think Auburn is the type of team that tries to play conservative offense, and whup up on D. Lay and wait for other teams to make mistakes. So they can beat teams like Florida and lose to bad teams. USF was not the bad team they lost to.
And I for one think USF can play with any team in the nation if they play well with the possible exception of LSU that will pummel any team if they play well.
I do not think LSU gets to a bowl game undefeated this year.

auburn is a team of headcases. they play up or down to their compation. they overlooked usf and msu and paid for it.
uf is over-rated. if you don't let tebow run around and make him stand and thrown the ball he can't beat you.
lsu and usc are still the 2 best teams in the country, imo.


Sat, Oct 13
at (17) Kentucky3:30 pm-- Sat, Oct 20(22) Auburn9:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 3at Alabama5:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 10Louisiana Tech8:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 17at MississippiTBA-- Fri, Nov 23Arkansas
that's lsu remaining schedule. the only team that has a crack at them is aubarn and it's a home game.

Originally Posted by ddthetide

Sat, Oct 13
at (17) Kentucky3:30 pm-- Sat, Oct 20(22) Auburn9:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 3at Alabama5:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 10Louisiana Tech8:00 pm-- Sat, Nov 17at MississippiTBA-- Fri, Nov 23Arkansas
that's lsu remaining schedule. the only team that has a crack at them is aubarn and it's a home game.

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Arkansas.
You know one of these games, at least one, will end up a nail biter. (Kentucky and ARk. can score. Aub. and Ala will be ready to play tough)
I feel they will lose one of these or...

The SEC title game.

[ddthetide]

lsu defense can shut down the uk offense. arky doesn't throw the ball well enough and makes to many mistakes in general. the barner offense is balanced and they play pretty good defense. Bama will be lucky to be within 14 pts.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Arkansas.
You know one of these games, at least one, will end up a nail biter. (Kentucky and ARk. can score. Aub. and Ala will be ready to play tough)
I feel they will lose one of these or...

The SEC title game.

And it came to pass.

And God did display his rath
by smiting the mighty Tiger
with a cat. And the smitten
cat doth...

Gothic times I tell ya.
All this smiting and slaying.

[Mortimer]

There is only one.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by deltagulf

lsu and usc have the most talent and deep rosters full of speed and players that will be playing on sundays soon.

Maybe they'll do better there.

BCS Standings
1. Ohio State
2. South Florida
3. Boston College
4. LSU
5. Oklahoma
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Arizona State
9. West Virginia
10. Oregon
11. Virginia Tech
12. California
13. Kansas
14. USC
15. Florida
16. Missouri
17. Auburn
18. Hawaii
19. Virginia
20. Georgia
21. Tennessee
22. Texas
23. Cincinnati
24. Texas Tech
25. Michigan

The most over-rated:

Boston College
Arizona State
Kansas
Hawaii
Texas Tech

It should be noted that the vile Steve Spurrier
has done an incredible job at S. Carolina.

The best team is still LSU. When they get
the Early one back, and if they can get to the BCS
championship game, they will win. Ohio State is still
not respected by many but I think their Defense warrants
consideration of being very worthy to beat any team. I
think if Sweater-Vest man blings up, his charges would not be
the object of ridicule. A big gold chain medallion from Maurice Clarret
would boost morale and respect considerably.