Bailey vs. Azeri

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I think it was a silly ride by both riders. Speed horse or not why was he going in 109, and why was Day pushing the pace on a mare that easily could be taken in hand?

[Cannon Shell]

Bailey tried to win the race, period. He knew he had one chance to win and that was to wire them. If anyone is at fault it would be Pat Day who pressed the pace even though it obviously was fast. What was Bailey supposed to do? Shout over to Day, "Hey Pat I'm gonna slow it down a little. Please dont pass me."? Watch the race and tell me where the opportunity was for him to back the pace up?

And Justin you must not be too old because Azeri, while a good horse, was not in the same class as many of the good filliy and mares of the 80's like Lady's Secret, Winning Colors, Personal Ensign, Go for Wand, Bayakoa.....

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And Justin you must not be too old because Azeri, while a good horse, was not in the same class as many of the good filliy and mares of the 80's like Lady's Secret, Winning Colors, Personal Ensign, Go for Wand, Bayakoa.....

You left out Princess Rooney and Melair - who both would have slaughtered Azeri.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You left out Princess Rooney and Melair - who both would have slaughtered Azeri.

You are right, though Melair may have had trouble going 1 1/8th

[Indian Charlie]

akinemod, lakeway, inside info, sardula, heavenly prize, sharp cat, go for wand, bayakoa and many more.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

akinemod, lakeway, inside info, sardula, heavenly prize, sharp cat, go for wand, bayakoa and many more.

I'll take Azeri over those

[Cannon Shell]

For Justin

What would Azeri done about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0izE...elated&search=

If Azeri just had a trainer that tried to move her along instead of going after some idiotic winning string. Ruined her. Bored her running against all those inferior females.

Fantastic horse that never got to show how good she really was. She could have whupped up on so many of the best males. By the time she was with D.Wayne her best days were gone imo.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'll take Azeri over those

trust me man, of the ones i named, akinemod was probably the best one, before her illnesses and injuries plagued her.

her first time routing she won by 18 in what is still to this day one of the 2-3 highest beyer figs ever earned by a female horse routing.

lakeway too, after jones ran her sick in that one summer race and she almost died, she was never the same. i'd like to have seen azeri in her prime try to beat lakeway when she went 9f in around 145.4 as a 3yo, before her brush with death. that would have been a slaughter.

sardula was a freak too. i always wondered what she'd have done in the hands of someone other than mayberry.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

If Azeri just had a trainer that tried to move her along instead of going after some idiotic winning string. Ruined her. Bored her running against all those inferior females.

Fantastic horse that never got to show how good she really was. She could have whupped up on so many of the best males. By the time she was with D.Wayne her best days were gone imo.

Pure speculation...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

trust me man, of the ones i named, akinemod was probably the best one, before her illnesses and injuries plagued her.

her first time routing she won by 18 in what is still to this day one of the 2-3 highest beyer figs ever earned by a female horse routing.

lakeway too, after jones ran her sick in that one summer race and she almost died, she was never the same. i'd like to have seen azeri in her prime try to beat lakeway when she went 9f in around 145.4 as a 3yo, before her brush with death. that would have been a slaughter.

sardula was a freak too. i always wondered what she'd have done in the hands of someone other than mayberry.

You are the typical modern day horseracing fan....taking potential and portraying it as success! You don't happen to own a breeding farm do you?


BTW I saw Lakeway and Sardula up close and personal. They were far from alltime greats like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGD77kgutGU

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Pure speculation...

This thread is a large batch of speculation big guy...
But its fun.

Damn good horse. And I did get to see the others run.
Azeri is up with the best. And yes, thats speculation.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

This thread is a large batch of speculation big guy...
But its fun.

Damn good horse. And I did get to see the others run.
Azeri is up with the best. And yes, thats speculation.

You gleaned this information from her series of allowance victories that were masquerading as graded stakes?

[Cannon Shell]

What about this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBdRyCEcnlo

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They were far from alltime greats like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGD77kgutGU

While she was an all-time great....

Any race that features a horse going wire-to-wire on the old KEE dirt track, after being allowed an uncontested lead - is inadmissible evidence.

Just as it would be inadmissible evidence to show the five races Aaron Gryder rode her - four of which she lost - and use that as the basis of why she wasn't so great.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

While she was an all-time great....

Any race that features a horse going wire-to-wire on the old KEE dirt track, after being allowed an uncontested lead - is inadmissible evidence.

Just as it would be inadmissible evidence to show the five races Aaron Gryder rode her - four of which she lost - and use that as the basis of why she wasn't so great.

ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayl-3...elated&search=

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Azeri is up with the best.

Fillies and mares of this decade?

I agree! Right at the top.

And that sure isn't saying very much about her.

She sure did show Tropical Blossom and Sister Girl Blues who was boss!

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You gleaned this information from her series of allowance victories that were masquerading as graded stakes?

The BC at Arlington.
Tell me she would not have crushed the boys.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The great Volponi would have easily beat her that day.

And then they let her ferment.
Sad.