p val gets the boot again - Page 2

2Hot4TV · #21 12-29-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Not to make light of the situation, drinking and driving and all...but the idea of a jock going through a fast food drive thru at 3 am is pure comedy gold...

Track Annoucer: "Late Changes: All of P Val's mounts 3lbs over due to late nite Baja Supreemo Double Steak Gorditas"...lol

It made me snicker too.

The DUI part can not be tolerated, but to take his job away. Rehab and only let him work horses with testing for drugs.

Danzig · #22 12-29-2007, 09:03 AM

other jocks have lost their licenses for less, p val has had so many chances, and continues to blow them. pointing out that he is a troubled person who can't seem to help himself isn't kicking him when he's down, it's the truth.
the chrb is partly at fault with his continued issues, as they continue to give him 'one more chance'. so where is the incentive to get help?
much like cole norman, he won't do anything about the situation until HE feels there is a problem, and he is ready to do something about it.

i think p val should have to go thru a substantial program, and then remain clean and sober for a year after exiting that program, with clean tests throughout that year, before they even consider giving him a license again.

cowgirlintexas · #23 12-29-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

It made me snicker too.

The DUI part can not be tolerated, but to take his job away. Rehab and only let him work horses with testing for drugs.

I agree, abit absurd really... He was'nt even riding a horse or near a racetrack... Personally, I don't think he should be punished at his job for driving a car drunk.. That should be a whole seperate deal. Be different if he failed a breathalizer at the track.

Danzig · #24 12-29-2007, 09:09 AM

except that everyone seems to forget that p val agreed to all the stipulations in that deal with the chrb, in order to get his license. not for nothing is it called 'conditional'. he broke a condition of the license. besides, there are plenty of jobs out there that if you get a dui off duty, it can cost you your job--mainly anyone who drives for their company, whether a truck/18 wheeler or a company vehicle, etc, because the insurance co won't cover you.

2Hot4TV · #25 12-29-2007, 09:12 AM

The race track and party life is what Pat grew up in. Old habits are hard to break when the money comes so easy. He will regret this till the day he dies.

Bigsmc · #26 12-29-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

I agree, abit absurd really... He was'nt even riding a horse or near a racetrack... Personally, I don't think he should be punished at his job for driving a car drunk.. That should be a whole seperate deal. Be different if he failed a breathalizer at the track.

No jock is punished for that....unless, he has had a sordid past, filled with drug and alcohol problems, leaving owners and trainers in the lurch, etc....
Then you end up with the conditions laid out before him in order to ride again. He agreed to those conditions and broke them, end of story, end of P. Val.

As someone previously said, as long as they continue to license him, they are enabling him. What incentive does he have to get well if just sitting out for a period of time, passing the drug tests and taking a slap on the wrist is all he has to do to get back to riding?

Enough already.

Danzig · #27 12-29-2007, 09:17 AM

except that we have seen others with problems beat them, without all the continued drama and back and forth. it's like a game to pval, beat the chrb. then he wants every one to feel sorry for him when he effs up again-oh, don't take his job away. hell, he's trying to give it away!

#28 12-29-2007, 10:57 AM

Well now is as good a time as any...

PVal should be in the Hall of Fame.

The Bid · #29 12-29-2007, 11:03 AM

So what. The guy had a couple tall boys, he weighs 115lbs.

2Hot4TV · #30 12-29-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well now is as good a time as any...

PVal should be in the Hall of Fame.

Dont think that will happen.

SCUDSBROTHER · #31 12-29-2007, 01:06 PM

I think this is it for him.He had great talent,but I didn't see much left when he rode at HWD.He might of got one horse(that wouldn't normally have won) to win,but he didn't keep the horse strait at all.He got taken down.If people want to drive,they damn sure better be able to avoid still objects.I think he will end up working horses in the mornings,and living paycheck to paycheck.He has one back-up talent now,and that is conducting Bible Study Classes for substance abusers.

SCUDSBROTHER · #32 12-29-2007, 03:15 PM

Bejarano gets the easy 3k in the 1st race(instead of original rider PVAL.) Costly...u dumb fkr......You know the fine will be like 2k or more(for a D.U.I.)That's 5k atleast you lost (cuz u a dumb fkr.)

hoovesupsideyourhead · #33 12-29-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Bejarano gets the easy 3k in the 1st race(instead of original rider PVAL.) Costly...u dumb fkr......You know the fine will be like 2k or more(for a D.U.I.)That's 5k atleast you lost (cuz u a dumb fkr.)

his lifetime earnings.... can afford a limo....

fpsoxfan · #34 12-29-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Well now is as good a time as any...

PVal should be in the Hall of Fame.

Some much for that debate.

my miss storm cat · #35 02-03-2008, 07:02 PM

VALENZUELA COMING: Jockey Patrick Valenzuela will arrive at the Fair Grounds on Thursday and wants to begin riding by Saturday or Sunday, said Danny Gargan, who will be Valenzuela's agent.

Valenzuela, who won the Kentucky Derby and Preakness on Sunday Silence in 1989 and who has seven Breeders' Cup victories, for years was among the best riders based in Southern California. He also has a history of substance-abuse problems and suspensions.

His latest problem came Dec. 28, when the California Horse Racing Board terminated the conditional license under which he was riding. He had been arrested for allegedly driving under the influence of alcohol -- a violation of the terms of the conditional license.

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/horse...260.xml&coll=1

cowgirlintexas · #36 02-03-2008, 09:03 PM

Wonder who this agent is... Anyone heard of him before? Why on earth would he be P.V's agent after all the B.S? Be interesting to see what the Fairgrounds does. My guess is they say "No way"...

docicu3 · #37 02-03-2008, 10:49 PM

I would think he would have to have a Louisiana license before they would be brazen enough to send out a press release like this......Chuck?

Cannon Shell · #38 02-03-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

I would think he would have to have a Louisiana license before they would be brazen enough to send out a press release like this......Chuck?

He has a LA license. Reprocosity does not include non racing violations apparently according to the article. I've know PVal for a long time. A big part of his problem is that he has had some serious mental issues that went unaddressed for a long time. I would guess that they are still unresolved. I am not making excuses for him but he is closer to insane than sane, sober or otherwise.

docicu3 · #39 02-04-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He has a LA license. Reprocosity does not include non racing violations apparently according to the article. I've know PVal for a long time. A big part of his problem is that he has had some serious mental issues that went unaddressed for a long time. I would guess that they are still unresolved. I am not making excuses for him but he is closer to insane than sane, sober or otherwise.

That's incredibly sad.......you sound like you should be writing the insightful piece on this guy rather than all the agents and family he has friction with. I had never read someone say he is organically ill other than his obvious substance issues. In most businesses or professions if your addiction is active we give you time away until you establish your sobriety again. A shame it doesn't apply to jocks.

SCUDSBROTHER · #40 02-04-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He has a LA license. Reprocosity does not include non racing violations apparently according to the article. I've know PVal for a long time. A big part of his problem is that he has had some serious mental issues that went unaddressed for a long time. I would guess that they are still unresolved. I am not making excuses for him but he is closer to insane than sane, sober or otherwise.

CHUCK,I think the Cocaine is more of a private matter than anything else(as long as he gets tested when he rides.) I'm not just gunna overlook people driving so drunk they can't avoid still objects.I'm tired of that.Exactly when does all this become too much of a situation where a person like this is very susceptible to being bribed or blackmailed? I backed this guy enough.The D.U.I. is the last straw.If he doesn't give a **** about endangering people on the road,then I'm sure not gunna back him anymore.Also,people with serious mental issues aren't usually gunna be helped as much as people think.These are serious diseases that can be made more chronic than acute(but it's not like they are gunna be normal.) Compared to the rest of the medical Sciences,Psychiatrists are using 2 cups with string attached.