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Old 02-04-2008, 01:47 PM
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I was going through the weekend's results at Philly Park this weekend because I'm thinking about starting to follow that track and came across this result from Saturday:

7th Race

Next Post 3:35 Off: 3:08 | 6 Furlongs | 3 Year Olds | Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $40,000

# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
7 Tempered Fate Flores J L 121 55.80 22.00 12.00
9 Really King E L Jr 121 17.60 6.60
2 Two Dragons Vega H 121 4.20

Winning Trainer: Dutrow Anthony W - Owner: Zayat Stables, LLC

How does a Tony Dutrow/Zayat horse pay that much at Philly?! He's by Distorted Humor and was the sale topper ($260K) at the OBS June '07 .
His dam is also a 1/2 to Anees. . .

What am I missing here?!
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:52 PM
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Pom Poms?
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:55 PM
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Dutrow shows .08% with first time starters from 60. Horse also only shows 1 work There were certainly a few more in there that made more sense on paper...but hey..what do you do?
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:58 PM
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When the hell did David Cohen start riding at Philly Park?
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:59 PM
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I don't know how he paid $55......but I do know why he won.

I bet the second horse.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:59 PM
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I don't know how he paid $55......but I do know why he won.

I bet the second horse.

You bet Philly Park?
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:03 PM
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You bet Philly Park?

This is probably the first horse I have made an actual bet on at Phili Park in a long time.

Take a look at the pps of the second horse. He had a monsterous against the bias trip when finishing third to that Kiaran trap in the Swale at Gulfstream.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:07 PM
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This is probably the first horse I have made an actual bet on at Phili Park in a long time.

Take a look at the pps of the second horse. He had a monsterous against the bias trip when finishing third to that Kiaran trap in the Swale at Gulfstream.

Ok...I see where he was 3rd to Wincat in his last out in a MSW.

Help me with the Swale at Gulfstream part?
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:09 PM
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Ok...I see where he was 3rd to Wincat in his last out in a MSW.

Help me with the Swale at Gulfstream part?
Wincat was the trap in the Swale
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:10 PM
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Wincat finished third in the Swale.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:11 PM
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Wincat was the trap in the Swale

I thought thats what he was meaning...I just read it funny
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:14 PM
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IMO...it seems one of 2 things happened.

1. Horse ran tons better than they thought it could (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL )

2. The layed this one over.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:18 PM
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IMO...this is what happened.

Horse ran tons better than they thought it could


FTFY.



The other stuff here is absurd redboarding.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:20 PM
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FTFY.



The other stuff here is absurd redboarding.

I thought I was hip on the lingo....but what the hell is FTFY?
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:21 PM
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Fixed That For You.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:24 PM
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Fixed That For You.

How often do you think that happens?

Horse has one published work and "ok...lets give him a shot and see how he runs"??
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:30 PM
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I wouldn't be so specific but I think connections are frequently fooled. Most of the time they think they have a runner and are wrong but most big priced firsters, especially from reasonably high profile connections, are surprises.

Anthony Dutrow is a sharp guy, and as was pointed out, the Phili pools aren't very big, so it's pretty unlikely they were at all excited by this horse's chances, at least in this race.
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:38 PM
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I wouldn't be so specific but I think connections are frequently fooled. Most of the time they think they have a runner and are wrong but most big priced firsters, especially from reasonably high profile connections, are surprises.

Anthony Dutrow is a sharp guy, and as was pointed out, the Phili pools aren't very big, so it's pretty unlikely they were at all excited by this horse's chances, at least in this race.

Good deal...thanks for the insight.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:03 PM
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Tony Dutrow and Mercedes Stable hit with a 15/1 shot debuter at Philly Park a month or so ago - that I bet.

That horse was a 700K 2yo RNA.

The Distorted Humor sales topper that paid all that money to win, that horse didn't even work under-tack - and was probably not an overlay at all if it was ignored that much in the betting.

Just happened to win.
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