The Friend's Lake Two Year Olds Look Pretty Good - Page 2

Cannon Shell · #21 03-11-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

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For a socalled breeding expert you seem to be off the mark on Friends Lakes breeding. He is by AP Indy, the premier sire in American racing. He is out of Antespend who won 3 grade 1's and over 1 million dollars on the track. She has produced 3 foals of running age, one is FL, a grade 1 winner and another is Seeking the Ante who is a Grade 2 winner. Antespends dam, Auspiciante, was also a multiple grade 1 winner and graded stakes producer.

Friends Lake is the best looking stallion at Airdrie (IMO) is very well balanced and well made especially for a son of AP Indy. I would think that he has at least as good a chance as Proud Citizen or Harlans Holiday, both of which are Airdrie success stories with 1st crops as 3 year olds.

blackthroatedwind · #22 03-11-2008, 10:40 AM

I believe Friend's Lake was a homebred. How much do you think he would have sold for at public auction Chuck?

The Indomitable DrugS · #23 03-11-2008, 10:40 AM

I don't know Cannon....

I'm pretty well aware of the positives about Friends Lake myself - and I still expected him to suck as a stallion.

He was an awful race horse. I have no idea where the speed in these drills are coming from with his babies.

blackthroatedwind · #24 03-11-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know Cannon....

I'm pretty well aware of the positives about Friends Lake myself - and I still expected him to suck as a stallion.

He was an awful race horse. I have no idea where the speed in these drills are coming from with his babies.

He was no superstar but there is more than meets the eye concerning his handling.

Cannon Shell · #25 03-11-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I believe Friend's Lake was a homebred. How much do you think he would have sold for at public auction Chuck?

Assuming that he looked as good as a yearling, 1 million easy.

Cannon Shell · #26 03-11-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know Cannon....

I'm pretty well aware of the positives about Friends Lake myself - and I still expected him to suck as a stallion.

He was an awful race horse. I have no idea where the speed in these drills are coming from with his babies.

I was not high on him initially but he has thrown nice horses who seem to have a lot more speed than he did.

The Indomitable DrugS · #27 03-11-2008, 10:53 AM

He has an unraced half brother by Storm Cat named Rainmaker - stands for $1,500 in Louisianna.

Rainmaker actually had a filly sell for $77K, the sales topper at a Texas yearling sale.

The Cuvee's look pretty damn fast - but they certainly figured to be nothing if not fast.

paisjpq · #28 03-11-2008, 12:27 PM

FWIW I liked a lot of the Friends Lake yearlings that I looked at last fall....but I wasn't a fan of the horse, so didn't give them much credit.

I don't follow 2YO sales much...but will be very interested in how hip 148 sells. He was a classy, smart, good-looking yearling, reminded me a lot of his brother.

also have a mild interest in hip 97 just because her 2nd dam is by the sire of my horse

kentuckyrosesinmay · #29 03-11-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Good luck.

Danzig · #30 03-11-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

may i recommend pedigree query dot com?

Cajungator26 · #31 03-11-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

may i recommend pedigree query dot com?

Why yes, you may indeed. This guy is pretty funny, is he not?

Danzig · #32 03-11-2008, 10:01 PM

i know i laughed when he said he liked scuds.

The Indomitable DrugS · #33 03-12-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He has an unraced half brother by Storm Cat named Rainmaker - stands for $1,500 in Louisianna.

Rainmaker actually had a filly sell for $77K, the sales topper at a Texas yearling sale.

I believe I watched this same filly work a furlong in 10 flat at OBS March.

It's bad enough the Friend's Lake's are working fast - but his blacksheep brother is even getting fast ones.

freddymo · #34 03-12-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

Yea his dam has been a really frog generator... dude do a little research

freddymo · #35 03-12-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I believe Friend's Lake was a homebred. How much do you think he would have sold for at public auction Chuck?

Mr J has to be tickled to death.. The horse was pretty much a Indy plotter..Didn't Mig win the Coalition with Seeking the Ante?

The Indomitable DrugS · #36 03-12-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Didn't Mig win the Coalition with Seeking the Ante?

Freddy, what in the hell race are you talking about?

I'm hoping you mean the Cotillion Stakes (which is now a $750K stake by the way) .... but Seeking The Ante never won that.

The Indomitable DrugS · #37 03-12-2008, 03:47 PM

I always thought the Cotillion was named after some famous old horse or broodmare.... turns out ....

"In the United States, Cotillion has become training that children and young adults attend to learn manners and proper social behavior in the context of formal dance. The participants dress up in formal attire and some cotillions emphasize the use of white gloves. Modern day Cotillion takes the form of classes and parties."

Ah, I'm sure Freddy and I and a few others missed out on those.

More importantly, they should rename that race The Coaliton.

freddymo · #38 03-12-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Freddy, what in the hell race are you talking about?

I'm hoping you mean the Cotillion Stakes (which is now a $750K stake by the way) .... but Seeking The Ante never won that.

Same difference leave me alone got crushed last nite at Poker played till 4am my son is sick and I had to take him to Dr this morning at 9am.. He probably caught your disease from touching my cell.

BTW I think??? I remember her race Mig went down to philly Park to race her it was a crappy field and I think it was in the slop.. She was no big deal either.. Mr. Broman I think bred her to SCat... Now that is a great cross Seeking to S'cat go see how many quality horses that cross has produced

The Indomitable DrugS · #39 03-12-2008, 04:02 PM

I feel your pain.