This is how you can ruin a good horse

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Scav

They don't have to force Polinus into this, instead they could take their time. It is such a novel idea to try and be patient with a good horse.

It isn't like this horse is seasoned and has 8 races under his belt. SA Derby will be his 5th race I think.

Everyone's dream is to get to the Derby, this I understand, but they could easily win some races with this guy and put the money they win from this horse, into some yearlings and develop their Derby horse, instead of potentially ruining this horse.

But haven't they already taken their time with Polonius? Didn't he break his maiden way back in July of last year and then didn't show up again until last month?

Doesn't that suggest that he has physical issues? If he's in form at the present, don't they have to take their shot now as opposed to a meticulously progressive campaign of turf races that culminates in a facile win in the Secretariat in August?

Maybe we can get Ron Burgundy to investigate and shed some light on this.

[Bigsmc]

Did you see a couple movies this weekend Rollo?

Drillbit Taylor and Ron Burgundy in the same thread.....

[cmorioles]

It would be silly to pass up the Santa Anita Fake Dirt Derby with a good turf horse. This one set a relaxed pace last out and finished strong, so he doesn't appear to be the tough to rate type that falter on synthetics.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by Scav

This aint the trainer speaking. The guy just won HIS FIRST STAKES. This is all owner. This horse has to improve about 20 lengths to even be in Georgie Boy's radar.

Elysium Fields may be one of the choices in the G1 Florida Derby and all hes won is a maiden. Giacomo was eligible for a NW1x when he won the damn KY DERBY. Stuff happens. It's a chaotic 3yo bunch. You have to take a shot.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Linny

Giacomo was eligible for a NW1x when he won the damn KY DERBY. Stuff happens. It's a chaotic 3yo bunch. You have to take a shot.

Giacomo would be the most consistantly fast horse going now on Beyers if he was in this crop.

He got a 94 in his final start at age 2, a 98 in the Sham when he was caught 4 wide on both turns on a track where Going Wild rode the live rail the whole way, than he got a 93 in by far the fastest San Felipe stakes ever run, over a super fast track that was carrying speed.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Giacomo would be the most consistantly fast horse going now on Beyers if he was in this crop.

He got a 94 in his final start at age 2, a 98 in the Sham when he was caught 4 wide on both turns on a track where Going Wild rode the live rail the whole way, than he got a 93 in by far the fastest San Felipe stakes ever run, over a super fast track that was carrying speed.

Anyone attempting to say this crop is strong should have to begin by explaining how this could be possible.

[Linny]

This seaon Giocomo would be a standout! (Scary stuff!)

The point is that in a chaotic season, made more so by the "synthetic factor" it may be worth it to take a shot. The top 3 from the San Felipe were all stretchout sprinters. Col. John is bred to route but has not exactly been a monster.
It may not be about making Polonius a KY Derby winner but getting G1 3yo credentials into him. No matter what, the "turf 3yo divisions" may be nice for making money (Va Derby etc) but it's not where you make "credentials" for your 3yo.