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Old 06-03-2008, 05:12 PM
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shoot and Andy's comments werent even directed toward a dt member.. they were about the person quoted in the news story!! and he was absolutely correct!

Maybe that poster is close to the Deputy Mayor. Thank God someone was here to defend him.
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:12 PM
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It's one thing for people outside of racing to fail to understand the situation, as mainstream media has done a terrible job of reporting about this correctly, but it would be nice if people with an interest in the game took the time to at least try to understand it.

It's frustrating because it's possible that horseplayers will unnecessarily bear the burden of an eminently solvable situation. Hopefully a fair and agreeable compromise will be made.
The problem is that now that we get the franchise issue resolved with the State, with long-promised dollars finally going to NYRA, horsemen and breeders, here comes another government agency trying to take that money away. If the short-term consequences of shuttering NYC OTB weren't so significant, I'd love to see the State call Bloomberg's bluff, with someone else (preferably NYRA) taking over NYC OTB.
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:21 PM
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Maybe you can talk when you contribute to the board, instead of being a respond sniper....

Maybe because he is IN THE KNOW. He has no obligation to say ANYTHING at all, but he doesn't want the common people sounding like idiots when they talk to other people about things that are said on this board.

And for the last line, that is laughable.
I completely respect the knowledge of BTW. This is his profession and his opinions add value to this group. Couldn't he respond with more tact? The tone of his replies screams out, "You know nothing, I know most everything, so shut up." Again it's not about the content, it's the delivery!!
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:25 PM
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I completely respect the knowledge of BTW. This is his profession and his opinions add value to this group. Couldn't he respond with more tact? The tone of his replies screams out, "You know nothing, I know most everything, so shut up." Again it's not about the content, it's the delivery!!
Do you know him? that is him, that is his personality, and trust me, he isn't demeaning anyone, he is just being a sarcastic smart ass, I can see how someone maybe misunderstands it being it is a message board, but ole boy doesn't have time to harm anyone, he is watching replays all day
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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I completely respect the knowledge of BTW. This is his profession and his opinions add value to this group. Couldn't he respond with more tact? The tone of his replies screams out, "You know nothing, I know most everything, so shut up." Again it's not about the content, it's the delivery!!
His alleged (read: interpreted) 'lack of tact' is one of his most endearing qualities...
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:32 PM
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His alleged (read: interpreted) 'lack of tact' is one of his most endearing qualities...
What happens to him after a few martinis?
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:34 PM
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His alleged (read: interpreted) 'lack of tact' is one of his most endearing qualities...
That explains why you haven't gotten sick of me yet..
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:37 PM
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I'm guessing you are not responsible for bringing the macaroni salad to the Mensa picnic.
great line.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:39 PM
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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If you had any idea what you were talking about, you'd realize that NYC is not losing money with NYC OTB.
Who am I going to believe,the mayor who just sent out pink slips or a poster on the internet? Tough choice. Bloomberg is an honest guy. Very good mayor.

It is hard to defend operations like NYC OTB and NYRA. They do things like file for bankruptcy. If they can't break even they need to make changes. If that means cutting purses or staff that is their problem. The government isn't here to bail out poorly run organizations. How hard is it to make money with a gambling operation? I don't support gambling if it means teachers and police officers are going to have to pay for it with their salaries.

“What is the defensible position?’’ Lieber said at the Capitol June 3. “What is the public policy that is served by taking taxpayer dollars and supporting a public bookie and taking it away from police officers, teachers, and others? I don’t think there’s a defensible position to do this, and the mayor won’t do it. This is not a bluff.”
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:56 PM
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Who am I going to believe,the mayor who just sent out pink slips or a poster on the internet? Tough choice. Bloomberg is an honest guy. Very good mayor.

It is hard to defend operations like NYC OTB and NYRA. They do things like file for bankruptcy. If they can't break even they need to make changes. If that means cutting purses or staff that is their problem. The government isn't here to bail out poorly run organizations. How hard is it to make money with a gambling operation? I don't support gambling if it means teachers and police officers are going to have to pay for it with their salaries.

“What is the defensible position?’’ Lieber said at the Capitol June 3. “What is the public policy that is served by taking taxpayer dollars and supporting a public bookie and taking it away from police officers, teachers, and others? I don’t think there’s a defensible position to do this, and the mayor won’t do it. This is not a bluff.”
This is idiotic on many levels......you are probably correct, a politician would never slant his opinion or stretch the truth to help a negotiation. You can't possibly be this naive.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:37 PM
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Bloomberg is an honest guy. Very good mayor.
Not exactly.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:58 PM
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Bloomberg is an honest guy. Very good mayor.
Wow, am I reading that correctly? Tough to follow that logic. While Bloomberg is a tremendous businessman, he is also a master manipulator and self promoter. What does OTB have to do with schools and cops? Nothing, but it gives him the opportunity to advance his point of view that gets swallowed whole by the media and an equally gullible public. NYCOTB made is own bed by ignoring customer service and amenities, being a whore house of political patronage and corruption and the ill advised deal for night time signals. OTB is the single worst thing to happen to NY racing (IMO) and if gets tossed in the scrap heap I will not shed any tears.
To be fair, NYRA bears some blame for refusing to get involved at OTBs inception, but certainly NYRA, bettors and the thoroughbred breeders are not the cause of OTB's situation as it stands now.
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