6/7: Belmont Stakes Day - Page 2

jcs11204 · #21 06-06-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Never brag about cashing on a Shug firster - betting those is a quick way to go broke.

i know, i always chase them...
i did not bet it big at all, and did not mean to brag

the_fat_man · #22 06-06-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I do think it's a very competitive race, but I absolutely love Dancing Forever. Playing him to win and place only.

Expecting a 3rd perfect trip in a row?

the_fat_man · #23 06-06-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Never brag about cashing on a Shug firster - betting those is a quick way to go broke.

Not enough that she sucked up inside, Coa did his best to blow the race for the favorite, as well. PERFECT TRIP.

jcs11204 · #24 06-06-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Not enough that she sucked up inside, Coa did his best to blow the race for the favorite, as well. PERFECT TRIP.

lol your funny... why ever use coa in that spot ? i had shug to win, and singled in the pick 3, which i hit for 200

Handicappy · #25 06-06-2008, 10:17 PM

Still trying to figure this card out. Tough races to 'cap. Steve, in the 10th, it seems that everyone is looking past the Mclaughlin runners. Except you of course with Shakis. Shakis has disappointed recently but he needs a firm turn course which he will get this year. He just missed winning this last year when Alan G. made a mistake he has committed to never make again and moved outside and let Better Talk through on the rail where he could have run. He has become much more patient now. But Stream of Gold! Has anyone seen his figures? He is the the most consistent horse in the field, has a positive joc change to Robby A., comes in off a good 5/6 weeks and ran a bullet in company with Shakis. The bullet worries me that it may have been too much but Stream is very live here.

VOL JACK · #26 06-06-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Never brag about cashing on a Shug firster - betting those is a quick way to go broke.

wow!! this guy is good he knows when a trainer that is 0-36 with firsters has a live one. Im impressed.

XIIPointStables · #27 06-06-2008, 10:46 PM

RE: The Acorn. I don't like Game Face. Should have cruised in her last. Does Dance Gal Dance have enough early speed to soften up Indian Blessing? I'm inclined to use just two in the P4: the 1 and the 5.

Thoughts?

VOL JACK · #28 06-06-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Not enough that she sucked up inside, Coa did his best to blow the race for the favorite, as well. PERFECT TRIP.

perfect trip against a bunch of crows.

hockey2315 · #29 06-06-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

RE: The Acorn. I don't like Game Face. Should have cruised in her last. Does Dance Gal Dance have enough early speed to soften up Indian Blessing? I'm inclined to use just two in the P4: the 1 and the 5.

Thoughts?

1's legit, 5 is overmatched

mes5107 · #30 06-06-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy

Stream of Gold! Has anyone seen his figures? He is the the most consistent horse in the field, has a positive joc change to Robby A., comes in off a good 5/6 weeks and ran a bullet in company with Shakis. The bullet worries me that it may have been too much but Stream is very live here.

Why would the bullet work worry you? Along with consistent figures, Stream of Gold consisently works fast.

hockey2315 · #31 06-06-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mes5107

Why would the bullet work worry you? Along with consistent figures, Stream of Gold consisently works fast.

As do most Kiarin horses. . . what would worry me is his 0/4 record at the distance, slowness, and outside post (maybe).

XIIPointStables · #32 06-06-2008, 10:53 PM

RE: Woody Stephens.

Do we read into Prado getting off Silver Edition and on to a horse that shows one dirt race? Do Prado and Baker have a past?

hockey2315 · #33 06-06-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

RE: Woody Stephens.

Do we read into Prado getting off Silver Edition and on to a horse that shows one dirt race? Do Prado and Baker have a past?

0/3 together in the last year and a half or so. . . Using both but like Fatal Bullet more.

XIIPointStables · #34 06-06-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

0/3 together in the last year and a half or so. . . Using both but like Fatal Bullet more.

I mean the horse doesn't show a local workout...nothing since May 4th at W.O. I hate to make a big deal about a jock but seems way out of left field; especially with the way Silver Ed. fought on Preakness day. This race baffles me. I'd feel better about J Be K if Harlem Rocker faired better. Maybe it was the poly....

mes5107 · #35 06-06-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

As do most Kiarin horses. . . what would worry me is his 0/4 record at the distance, slowness, and outside post (maybe).

That's what worries me. What draws me back in is his entrymate's ability to run a lightning pace. This would set up well for Stream of Gold if other horses run with Shake the Bank.

VOL JACK · #36 06-06-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

RE: Woody Stephens.

Do we read into Prado getting off Silver Edition and on to a horse that shows one dirt race? Do Prado and Baker have a past?

The only thing that I can think about when looking at the PPs for the woody is why I didnt crush T-berg. I cant seem to let it go.

hockey2315 · #37 06-06-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mes5107

That's what worries me. What draws me back in is his entrymate's ability to run a lightning pace. This would set up well for Stream of Gold if other horses run with Shake the Bank.

Whose entry mate? Better Talk Now's rabbit isn't fooling anyone - I doubt it'll really set things up for deep closers.

mes5107 · #38 06-06-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Whose entry mate? Better Talk Now's rabbit isn't fooling anyone - I doubt it'll really set things up for deep closers.

Sorry, Better Talk Now's entrymate, there are a couple that will go if only "reasonably" fast

blackthroatedwind · #39 06-07-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Expecting a 3rd perfect trip in a row?

My sentiments exactly.

About the only horse more ridiculous than him is Stalingrad.

blackthroatedwind · #40 06-07-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

You've told us who you don't like, and maybe you have a great understanding of what horses to throw out.
But who do you like in these two races, the 7th and 10th, to put up against my Stalingrad and Bayou's Lassie?

If you want to know who I like there are video analyses of every stake on DRF Plus that I did with Dan Illman.

Bayou's Lassie rolled on a speed favoring turf versus considerably weaker horses in her last race and faces, at least, stalking pressure from the much better Bit of Whimsey. She can't deal with her as they turn for home and she certainly can't deal with Lady of Venice and Criminologist later.

Stalingrad has had perfect trips in his last two races against considerably weaker. I respect the idea of taking an up and comer, if in fact that is true about your selection, but to me he is a horse with dramatically dressed up form that I would be looking to bet against versus a much weaker field. Simply said....he isn't as good as he looks and even at face value he doesn't look good enough to compete here.