Jones runner, pony target of release

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Kasept

http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/45957.htm

Some people are going out of their way to torment Larry and Cindy Jones. A thoroughbred was let out of a stall one night and the next, the huge stable pony (a Paint/Belguin mix) was released and seemingly fed something designed to sicken him.

This may or may not have been Eight Belles related, but Jones has said that he and Cindy have received the most vile hate mail and phone calls imaginable the last 2 months, and it hasn't abated much.

There are some serious nutbars out there folks..

Why would you say it may or may not have have been Eight Belles related? The article says it is clearly not Eight Belles related. It says that they believe a disgruntled employee was responsible.

To quote from the article, "Jones is confident he is not the target of other horsemen or activists."

The employee has been fired.

To insinuate that animal right's activists could have possibly been responsible is absurd. I know it would have made a better story if animal right's activists were involved. However, that is not the case.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't think it's absurd to at least explore the possibility that some radical animal right's activists had something to do with it or would do something like it. As we all have seen, it's certainly not beyond them and if Jones and his family have been getting threats.....

There is no evidence that any animal right's group was involved. They are not even looking into the possibility. Jones and Delaware Park have much more information about the incident than you or I. If the people(Jones and Dealware Park) closest to the invetigation have no reason to believe that animal right's activists were involved, why would you think so?

If they didn't know who do this, and they thought it was possible that animal right's activists were responsible, then I think it would be fair to speculate that it could have been animal right's people. But that is not the case.

Yeah there has to be more to it than a disgruntled employee who more than likely has drug problems. That kind of worker is rare on the backside.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say it may or may not have have been Eight Belles related? The article says it is clearly not Eight Belles related. It says that they believe a disgruntled employee was responsible.

To quote from the article, "Jones is confident he is not the target of other horsemen or activists."

The employee has been fired.

To insinuate that animal right's activists could have possibly been responsible is absurd. I know it would have made a better story if animal right's activists were involved. However, that is not the case.

I guess it's a matter of perspective... I did say 'may or may not'. He's had death threats directed at him and his wife. It's absurd to think there are people out there, besides the likely disgruntled employee, that would like to hurt the Joneses or things they care about? I don't think so.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Chances are anyone that reads the posts here already knows that.

This must have been the quote that made Steve crack up today on ATR..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I guess it's a matter of perspective... I did say 'may or may not'. He's had death threats directed at him and his wife. It's absurd to think there are people out there, besides the likely disgruntled employee, that would like to hurt the Joneses or things they care about? I don't think so.

I think it would be reasonable for us to consider animal right's activists as possible culprits if we didn't know who was responsible for the incident.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Did you do the detective work there? How do you know what they are looking into and not looking into? I know this probably never happens, but maybe the detectives are looking into things and not talking about it with the press?

No, I didn't do any detectice work. I am relying on Jones and the authorities at Delaware Park to do the detective work. From reading the article, it sounds like their investigation is proceeding smoothly. I don't think that you or I would be of much help to them.

Do you think that maybe we should call them up and tell them not to close the investigation too quickly because we think it is possible that others may be involved?

[Strategic Mission]

Every barn should require security cameras. No exceptions. Even if they aren't working people are going to be much less likely to do stuff if they think they might be on camera.

In this country though, if you are an illegal, they will just send you home so you can come back in. At the taxpayers expense, of course. Now if you are one of the few americans that work on the backstretch, watch out. They will throw you in jail and prosecute you. What a country this has become.

[paisjpq]

I think some gy who did the same thing at Churchill recently got jail time...read something about it in last weeks paper, can't remember the details but one of the horses he let out had to be euthanized.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I think some gy who did the same thing at Churchill recently got jail time...read something about it in last weeks paper, can't remember the details but one of the horses he let out had to be euthanized.

Tom Proctor the victim in that one, and owner of horse apparently suing him over it..

The guy who did it had worked for everyone and been fired by everyone.. including Chuck. Cherie fired him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

Every barn should require security cameras. No exceptions. Even if they aren't working people are going to be much less likely to do stuff if they think they might be on camera.

In this country though, if you are an illegal, they will just send you home so you can come back in. At the taxpayers expense, of course. Now if you are one of the few americans that work on the backstretch, watch out. They will throw you in jail and prosecute you. What a country this has become.

They would have to have night vision lenses to have been effective in this case

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Tom Proctor the victim in that one, and owner of horse apparently suing him over it..

The guy who did it had worked for everyone and been fired by everyone.. including Chuck. Cherie fired him.

He tried to turn hacker craft loose...but Hacker was too lazy to bother

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He tried to turn hacker craft loose...but Hacker was too lazy to bother

It was me...I was trying to steal him. Let me know when you send him to Portland Meadows and drop him into a $2kN3L

[sumitas]

Animal Rights groups would not set a horse loose. The groups are safety minded, not a threat to animals.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Animal Rights groups would not set a horse loose. The groups are safety minded, not a threat to animals.

is that why they let lab animals go?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Animal Rights groups would not set a horse loose. The groups are safety minded, not a threat to animals.

Many think animals should be free from human control and don't think through the logical consequences thereof. Horses running into traffic, etc.

One certainly tried to set loose a blind person's seeing eye dog; unclipped its leash while it was sitting next its person and told it to go be free. Dog looked at the perp with suspicion and stayed where it was. "Wassamatta, lady, can't you see I've got a job to do?" Had this gem from a legally blind but partially sighted board buddy who has a guide dog herself. Leaving a blind human helpless is no problem for them.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Animal Rights groups would not set a horse loose. The groups are safety minded, not a threat to animals.

The animal rights nuts are always setting aimals free, happens all the time at the primate research lab here. They also bomb humans.

How do you think they get all their undercover footage. Someone comes in and poses as a worker gets footage and exploits it.
I personally believe there is already undercover footage being taken by PETA and HSUS at tracks. Just google all their undercover investigations.

[sumitas]

If there are under cover investigations that is a good thing, imo. Setting horses loose is not acceptable regardless of who is responsible.