I never seen any trouble for Mambo In Seattle

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by jpops757

Did he get up for second because he went 9 wide or would he have not hit the board if he tried an inside trip? CJ even with his troubles won . Isnt that the way it is most of the time. A gutty winner and a game second, isnt the way we like it to be? Kinda like a horserace.

Not sure what you're saying here as a response to what I wrote. In fact, it is indecipherable.

"Get up for 2nd?" That would imply that Mambo in Seattle arrived late on the scene passing horses near the finish to gain the placement behind a clear winner. In fact, he hooked up with the winner approaching midstretch and dueled to the wire to lose what was the closest photograph in the history of the Travers, and one that many thought a dead heat.

My point was empathy for Howard and what I believe was the better horse Saturday in Mambo in Seattle, and additionally that while Colonel John is an admirable horse having a nice year, the Casner/Walden WinStar team are not endearing subjects for fan adulation.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Not sure what you're saying here as a response to what I wrote. In fact, it is indecipherable.

"Get up for 2nd?" That would imply that Mambo in Seattle arrived late on the scene passing horses near the finish to gain the placement behind a clear winner. In fact, he hooked up with the winner approaching midstretch and dueled to the wire to lose what was the closest photograph in the history of the Travers, and one that many thought a dead heat.

My point was empathy for Howard and what I believe was the better horse Saturday in Mambo in Seattle, and additionally that while Colonel John is an admirable horse having a nice year, the Casner/Walden WinStar team are not endearing subjects for fan adulation.

Have mambo in seattle's connections made any statements to you or in public about the possibility of the BC? I seem to remember last time the BC was in california, Farish/Howard had a little horse that they didnt want to ship out there.

I hope that they entertain it this time around. This horse sure looks like a good one.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Not sure what you're saying here as a response to what I wrote. In fact, it is indecipherable.

"Get up for 2nd?" That would imply that Mambo in Seattle arrived late on the scene passing horses near the finish to gain the placement behind a clear winner. In fact, he hooked up with the winner approaching midstretch and dueled to the wire to lose what was the closest photograph in the history of the Travers, and one that many thought a dead heat.

My point was empathy for Howard and what I believe was the better horse Saturday in Mambo in Seattle, and additionally that while Colonel John is an admirable horse having a nice year, the Casner/Walden WinStar team are not endearing subjects for fan adulation.

Let me first say I am no fan of Albarado, but what could he have done differently, if he stays where he was, he wouldn't have hit the board with all the trouble that went on in front of him and this horses 'style' almost causes him to be wide a majority of the time, especially in large field races.

Personally I think Colonel John's 'trouble' has been exaggerated, it was more Gomez jerking the horse because he was going to be ****ed if he didn't get to that gap because Da Tara was backing up. I actually think CJ got a perfect trip

Mambo was by far the best horse on Saturday, but from his prior races, he wasn't the type of horse that blows by people anyways.

More importantly, how about Thoro-pattern having both horses at 42% to run a top, and them running 1-2....

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Not sure what you're saying here as a response to what I wrote. In fact, it is indecipherable.

"Get up for 2nd?" That would imply that Mambo in Seattle arrived late on the scene passing horses near the finish to gain the placement behind a clear winner. In fact, he hooked up with the winner approaching midstretch and dueled to the wire to lose what was the closest photograph in the history of the Travers, and one that many thought a dead heat.

My point was empathy for Howard and what I believe was the better horse Saturday in Mambo in Seattle, and additionally that while Colonel John is an admirable horse having a nice year, the Casner/Walden WinStar team are not endearing subjects for fan adulation.

Is the photo available anywhere online?

[King Glorious]

It's awful hard for me to say that a horse should have won or was the better horse when he had that long of a run to pass the winner and the winner was going as slow as he was (about 25.70 for the final quarter) and he STILL didn't.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Have mambo in seattle's connections made any statements to you or in public about the possibility of the BC? I seem to remember last time the BC was in california, Farish/Howard had a little horse that they didnt want to ship out there.

I hope that they entertain it this time around. This horse sure looks like a good one.

I spoke with Howard Sunday to simply congratulate him on another great effort in the meet's signature event and express my feelings about the race to him. As always, he was exceptionally gracious about the outcome and effusive in praise for Harty and Colonel John. He and Mr. Farish take it a race at a time based on where their horses are between starts. Mambo in Seattle's 2 Keeneland starts were just fair, but both were early in his development. Howard running him there as a 2yo last fall and 3yo this spring are indications that he thinks Mambo can get over the surface. If he's right and the timing works, pending a next out decision (JCGC?), I imagine they would be happy to contest the BC Classic.

As I've explained several times since Midway Road's 2nd in the 2003 Preakness, Farish/Howard only run colts and horses in big spots if they expect to run well. Just as Phipps/Shug only run their fillies and mares in big spots if expect to run well. Bet accordingly...

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

tell him to dump robbie and get more wins..

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

tell him to dump robbie and get more wins..

Tell Farish to dump Howard while you're at it.

*braces for e-rage*

[Heels1989]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Is the photo available anywhere online?

Not the clearest, but this is all I have been able to find thus far.

http://pics.livejournal.com/jldecker/pic/000kr522/

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Heels1989

Not the clearest, but this is all I have been able to find thus far.

http://pics.livejournal.com/jldecker/pic/000kr522/

wow, thanks!

[-BT-]

i thought CJ should have got a hard look from the stewards for the move go-go made.

Macho Again didn't even get a chance to show his talents in this one either

-bt-

Well we need to blame somebody for the dismal results of the Howard barn this year...and since Mr. Farish and Mr. Howard are such nice people they are automatically eliminated.

106 starts
1st-2nd-3rd
8-21-20

Wow. Seems like running second is contagious!! It's Alporado's fault!!! Off with his head!!

Good job, Mr. Farish. You have a fine barn of underachievers. Maybe you should spend a few million more and bump that win percentage to a whopping 10%. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. God save the queen.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by -BT-

Macho Uno didn't even get a chance to show his talents in this one either

That would have been weird.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That would have been weird.

Much like my supposed numerous TV appearances on Saturday....Macho Uno made a belated bid in this year's Travers.

[sdjcom]

GO to the DRF official charts on travers and it will explain all trouble by any horse. Everybody must have watched race with 15 beers in them. lol this was a good thread I'll say so myself.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That would have been weird.

sorry, macho again

wow, rough crowd this morning on this one

-bt-

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Heels1989

Not the clearest, but this is all I have been able to find thus far.

http://pics.livejournal.com/jldecker/pic/000kr522/

talk about close. nice pic.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by -BT-

sorry, macho again

wow, rough crowd this morning on this one

-bt-

I was picturing Macho Uno giving a breeding demonstration for the 40,000 in attendance with Sumitas planted front row on the rail watching eagerly.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

GO to the DRF official charts on travers and it will explain all trouble by any horse. Everybody must have watched race with 15 beers in them. lol this was a good thread I'll say so myself.

Great idea. God knows the official charts are always 100% correct when describing trips.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That would have been weird.

LOL i totally got that and am laughing my head off.

Thanks!