Belmont 9/17 Race 2

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Just so I'm clear and i don't go nuts for no reason, what are you insinuating?

great handicappers think alike!!!!

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Originally Posted by hrfan

its plain as day in her first start at belmont, when the gates open the only horse she is in front of is the #4, kent rushes her up and she stays on well for second around the track, i mean its very clear

If she broke slow, then all of them but Hookin the Goods broke slow.

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Wow....shows how little I paid attention to Saratoga this year. I had no idea that On Board Again made it back to the races

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

if by telling me that in the 3rd race you thought the 3 and 4 were A's, i guess. And you're welcome for the 45 minutes of my life that I wasted last night trying to teach you something.

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THANK YOU, BUT I STILL DONT GET HOW YOU DECIDED WHO TO USE WITH what, i just cant get it... help me hoss, i am seeking help
I AM LOST

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

She broke maybe a half step slow each race and had horrible action last time. Not to mention the fact she has lost ground in the stretch each race. No thanks at short odds.

SHE wont be that short

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

She's going to be second choice at worst. Maybe and it's a big maybe, if the Zayat firster takes money she might be 3rd choice and around 3-1 or so. No thanks.

im going pick 4, will you help ?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

She's going to be second choice at worst. Maybe and it's a big maybe, if the Zayat firster takes money she might be 3rd choice and around 3-1 or so. No thanks.

i would much rather get beat with one of the firsters then with kent d/bush

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I'm jealous you dont spend this kinda quality time with me Hossy. I wanna learn too

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Help with what? if you can't get the system down, just play a caveman.

but i clearly need the system to be good....
i can make a b c x, but how do i use them ? please let me send you my pick 4 and you tell me how to actually send it in

ok i get it, but i dont.... once i get my letters, how do i decided who to put with who....
i am done handicapping tomorrows early pick 4 and here is what i came up with.....

Race 2-
1x
2x
3a
4x
5a
6a
7x
Race 3-
1x
2x
3a
4a
5x
6x
7c
Race 4-
1x
2a
3c
4x
5x
6x
7x
8x
9b
Race 5-
1x
2x
3c
4x
5x
6b
7c
8x
9a
10x
11x

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Didn't I already do that?

i dont know im confused

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm always down to talk races man. You know that. He's trying to get the whole Steve Crist A,B,C,X system down that he explains in Exotic Betting. maybe someone else can explain it better. And really, do you want to "learn" anything from me anyway?

I know bro..

Anyways...back to the race. She's Prime made a sneaky little middle move in her debut. She only finished 1.5 lengths behind Alkilina that day, who came back to win next out and then ran a pretty game 2nd to Goodday in her race after that.

I don't have any info in front of me, but did Miceli have any horses at Toga? You would think if he did, he would have taken her to run there. She must have came out of her debut ok, as she worked 13 days after and some decent interim works leading into this race. Whats your take on all that?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Basically you want me to do it for you. I might be bored, but not that bored. Look, I tried to explain it and the book does a very good job of going slow and explaining it. Just read the part where he explains how to put the plays together. Start with 4A's, then 3A's and a B and so on and so on. You have to decide how much you want to invest, which means you can't always play every combination like a caveman allows. That's about all I have the energy to do.

why do you say 4 a's ?

i have 7 total a's !!!

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Originally Posted by hrfan

why do you say 4 a's ?

i have 7 total a's !!!

Hossy...you must have the patience of Job

Originally Posted by GPK

Hossy...you must have the patience of Job

dude your on here now talking and ****, can you chime in here please

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Originally Posted by hrfan

dude your on here now talking and ****, can you chime in here please

You don't want my help with ticket structure. I suck ass at it.

Originally Posted by GPK

You don't want my help with ticket structure. I suck ass at it.

well i clearly do

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on man. By 4A's I mean you put a ticket together of your A's from each race. Then you put a ticket together of A's from 3 races and a B from 1 race. And so on and so on.


There is no way you read the book or my pm. Read the book for real this time and play caveman tickets until you get it down. I can't spend anymore time on this, I'm going to go crazy.

OK THERE IT IS, HOW DO I DECIDED WHAT RACE TO TAKE THE A OUT OF ?

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Originally Posted by hrfan

OK THERE IT IS, HOW DO I DECIDED WHAT RACE TO TAKE THE A OUT OF ?

you alternate

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Read the book and my pm. It's all right there. get a piece of paper and write it all out like I said. make a column going down for the races and a column going across for the A,B and C. Plug in your picks and then follow what he says. Start out with 4A's. Then go with 3A's and a B. So take your A's from the first 3 races and then your B from the last. If you don't have a B in the last, use an A from the last and a B somewhere else.

Seriously, play a caveman until you understand it better. There is no magic way of doing things, but I think his is the best way for the type of wagering I do. it might be different for you. Play how you are most comfortable.

alright !! is this system the best/ONLY way to go, clearly caveman does not work well, but is there anything else i can try ?