"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"

[ateamstupid]

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Fundamentals equal the very basics of economics.

What he fails to mention is how the lack of regulation has helped cause these problems. And to find the douchebag who deregulated just about everything...




Like I have said numerous times before...

This country is f.ucked with either candidate.

..We're less fu+ked with McCain...at least he won't give away the defense and secrets like his Democratic(wanta' sleep in the Lincoln bed tonite?)predecessor!

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

What can Obama do to increase salaries with all of these free trade agreements? Hmm? What's going to prevent employers from taking their business overseas and hiring people to work for practically nothing?

It's over, Johnny. You'll be here again in 2012 complaining about wages and lack of jobs.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

..We're less fu+ked with McCain...at least he won't give away the defense and secrets like his Democratic(wanta' sleep in the Lincoln bed tonite?)predecessor!

There is no threat to any of our borders. Our military needs a complete revamping. What we're doing in Iraq with paying off Sunni militias is embarrassing. We could've paid them off without invading and supplied them with weapons and training to overthrow Saddam. Would've been much cheaper.

George W. Bush is really not the President. His father is. And he is, and always will be, a disaster.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Tim, I'm curious, this is off topic, but do you think GW has been a good president? You obviously don't think Clinton was, so what about GW? And if you could, be honest.

I will post a response when time allows...life is interrupting!
I know this is a setup,but I will answer you later.

[GBBob]

when's the election..next week?

omg..it's 7 freakin weeks away...good lord

Prediction: By Nov 1 everyone will have everyone on iggy so no one will be reading anything from anyone and Steve will have bounced two people because someone is going postal by then

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

There is no threat to any of our borders. Our military needs a complete revamping. What we're doing in Iraq with paying off Sunni militias is embarrassing. We could've paid them off without invading and supplied them with weapons and training to overthrow Saddam. Would've been much cheaper.

hindsight is 20/20,bro

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're not going to Naples are you?

F France....or Italy?,lol

Or a




Which do you like best?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're not going to Naples are you?

Dude...all your stuff is a setup....but that's ok..I just got more BP meds

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

hindsight is 20/20,bro

Tell that to Colonel Macgregor.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You sir, just made the IGGY list. Now, if you guys will excuse me, I have to go make another graph so I can argue the merits of every hanging rat in horse racing.

I'm off to the velodrome

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

How does paying more taxes make you more patriotic? That is the question i want to know!

I also feel that Obama tax plan will most hurt the people trying to create new jobs for us. How will that help the economy?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

when's the election..next week?

omg..it's 7 freakin weeks away...good lord

Prediction: By Nov 1 everyone will have everyone on iggy so no one will be reading anything from anyone and Steve will have bounced two people because someone is going postal by then

Iggy or not GBBob and I are having a beer at BC..there are somethings more important than this election!!!!!

And if anyone else who wants to join our clause..you can get involved and buy us a beer at BC. You rich folk need to start looking out for those of us that want to appear less fortunate.

..and I don't drink that lite sh^t ! Premium Beer's only !!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How does paying more taxes make you more patriotic? That is the question i want to know!

I also feel that Obama tax plan will most hurt the people trying to create new jobs for us. How will that help the economy?

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Iggy or not GBBob and I are having a beer at BC..there are somethings more important than this election!!!!!

And if anyone else who wants to join our clause..you can get involved and buy us a beer at BC. You rich folk need to start looking out for those of us that want to appear less fortunate.

..and I don't drink that lite sh^t ! Premium Beer's only !!

you'll have Schlitz and like it...after the first 9 you'll never know the difference

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

I completely understand how the tax structure works. I got into an discussion with a lady I work with, who is close to 50 years old!! who said she didnt want to get a raise because she'd go to a higher tax bracket and actually end up with less $$.. I was like.. you realize you get taxed a certain $ of your first 7,500.. than a higher % for the next amount up to x amount of dollars, etc.

Its not like if you make 59k you are taxed 25% Of all.. then you make 60k and you get taxed 33% of all! I couldnt believe she didnt know that after how many years of doing her taxes?

as far as the bolded part... Democrats have always been great at spending less (and I'm not including G-Dub in the Repub spot cause he spends just at bad as a dem- and pissed off a lot of Repubs doing it)

[TheSpyder]

This is interesting....if it's accurate we spend more on military than the rest of the world combined, oy!

http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I completely understand how the tax structure works. I got into an discussion with a lady I work with, who is close to 50 years old!! who said she didnt want to get a raise because she'd go to a higher tax bracket and actually end up with less $$.. I was like.. you realize you get taxed a certain $ of your first 7,500.. than a higher % for the next amount up to x amount of dollars, etc.

Its not like if you make 59k you are taxed 25% Of all.. then you make 60k and you get taxed 33% of all! I couldnt believe she didnt know that after how many years of doing her taxes?

as far as the bolded part... Democrats have always been great at spending less (and I'm not including G-Dub in the Repub spot cause he spends just at bad as a dem- and pissed off a lot of Repubs doing it)

Yeah, those people just kill me, amazing how many of them are out there too.

I can't see McCain as President being anymore fiscally responsible than Bush. I at least think there is a chance Obama will be.