McCain suspends Campaign

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[geeker2]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Wow. What a cheap and pathetic move. It's clearly meant to shove Obama into a corner, so politically, it was a pretty brilliant move.

It's just posturing and I hope Obama doesn't bite, mostly because I'd just prefer to have a President capable of doing two things at once.

Someone should tell McCain that dealing with foreign policy and dealing with domestic policy is not an either/or, mutually exclusive, proposition once you're in the White House.

Sad and desparate. But then again, cheap, dishonest, and slimy moves like this have bred success for the last eight years, so why not stick with what works.

If it's not incredibly clear that, regardless of what you think of Obama, McCain has absolutely zero business running this country, add this notch and let me know when you finally figure it out.

I think the plan would be to try and avoid the partisan talk that you just have uttered. Which I am sure makes you feel really powerful and strong - but in the big picture of trying to work out some solution does zero. Whether you like it or not the answer lies somewhere in between and not on the left or right fringes.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I think the plan would be to try and avoid the partisan talk that you just have uttered. Which I am sure makes you feel really powerful and strong - but in the big picture of trying to work out some solution does zero. Whether you like it or not the answer lies somewhere in between and not on the left or right fringes.

Eh, powerful and strong is probably somewhat of an overstatement, but if that's how it comes off, I'll take it graciously.

More importantly, if the GOP weren't notorious for disingenuous, stupid trickery, then this might hold some water. But given the McCain campaign's penchant for outright lying in the last three weeks, it's pretty tough to give him the benefit of the doubt that he really is doing this for the well-being of the economy, and not of his own campaign (you know, the one that's in shambles and getting thrashed according to....well, everyone) considering that it's a trick right out of the typical GOP campaign playbook.

[SniperSB23]

Isn't this, in a way, the 3 AM phone call? Obama says he can answer the call and still make time for the debate. McCain is saying that is too much for him to handle.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Eh, powerful and strong is probably somewhat of an overstatement, but if that's how it comes off, I'll take it graciously.

More importantly, if the GOP weren't notorious for disingenuous, stupid trickery, then this might hold some water. But given the McCain campaign's penchant for outright lying in the last three weeks, it's pretty tough to give him the benefit of the doubt that he really is doing this for the well-being of the economy, and not of his own campaign (you know, the one that's in shambles and getting thrashed according to....well, everyone) considering that it's a trick right out of the typical GOP campaign playbook.

Well, if you are honest..you will say both sides have engaged in less than truthful ads and trickery - but that's politics as my left wing friend GBBob taught me.

But what does that have to do with trying to find a solution to a problem that the Nation faces - that by all measures is the worst we have faced in decades.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Well, if you are honest..you will say both sides have engaged in less than truthful ads and trickery - but that's politics as my left wing friend GBBob taught me.

But what does that have to do with trying to find a solution to a problem that the Nation faces - that by all measures is the worst we have faced in decades.

I don't deny for a second that Dems engage in some less than truthful advertising...which is certainly politics.

Outright, blatant lying, which has become the order of the month for McCain and Palin, is something different...something that's not 'just' politics.

And it's not like Dems are notorious for this type of silly election trick the way Republicans are.

That, in itself, has nothing to do with solving the problem. But self-professed weak on the economy McCain (who a week ago said the fundamentals of the economy were strong, and is now saying he needs to suspend his campaign to fix them....) is not going to fix it. It's pure theater and grandstanding, which seems painfully obvious.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Well, if you are honest..you will say both sides have engaged in less than truthful ads and trickery - but that's politics as my left wing friend GBBob taught me.

But what does that have to do with trying to find a solution to a problem that the Nation faces - that by all measures is the worst we have faced in decades.

The notion that John "deregulate" McCain is going to somehow ride in on his white horse and fix the economy is somewhat laughable Geeker. Come on...quit towing the party line. You know what this move is about.

The Palin bubble is deflating and the economy is killing him. Heck, George HW Bush can lose an election within a year of an overwhelming victory in Iraq because of that little recession, what do you think this one is doing to McCain? He knows it...Rove knows it...they all know it.

He needs to stay away from any national podiums until this thing gets just a little bit fixed. Can you really disagree with that?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The notion that John "deregulate" McCain is going to somehow ride in on his white horse and fix the economy is somewhat laughable Geeker. Come on...quit towing the party line. You know what this move is about.

The Palin bubble is deflating and the economy is killing him. Heck, George HW Bush can lose an election within a year of an overwhelming victory in Iraq because of that little recession, what do you think this one is doing to McCain? He knows it...Rove knows it...they all know it.

He needs to stay away from any national podiums until this thing gets just a little bit fixed. Can you really disagree with that?

I think if you review what I actually wrote you will not find any party line.

I don't give a sh*t if a solution comes from Obama or McCain or a combination or neither of them. What I expect from these idot's in government is a solution that protects the People and their future.

If Obama decided that the way to come to a solution is to walk down the street naked with his johnson out - Great.

If McCain decided that the best way is to wear a turbin and do cart-wheels down Wall Street - Great.

I don't give a Sh*t who or how they come up with one - I just demand one before everything turn into one big final pile of sh*t and I have to work till I am 80 years old!!!!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I think if you review what I actually wrote you will not find any party line.

I don't give a sh*t if a solution comes from Obama or McCain or a combination or neither of them. What I expect from these idot's in government is a solution that protects the People and their future.

If Obama decided that the way to come to a solution is to walk down the street naked with his johnson out - Great.

If McCain decided that the best way is to wear a turbin and do cart-wheels down Wall Street - Great.

I don't give a Sh*t who or how they come up with one - I just demand one before everything turn into one big final pile of sh*t and I have to work till I am 80 years old!!!!

When I said "stop towing the party line" what I meant was if you believe that McCain's move was anything BUT political then you are towing the party line.

As for a solution, neither McCain's or Obama's presence is going to make a hill of beans of difference in terms of the final result. This is basically a done deal anyway as everyone knows that this has to get done this weekend. period. end of story.

That is why this whole "im going to suspend my campaign" thing is so ridiculous.

As for a solution, the devil will surely be in the details. If there is a smart group regulating the assets that government will be buying, this will be a money making proposition for the taxpayer.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Wow. What a cheap and pathetic move. It's clearly meant to shove Obama into a corner, so politically, it was a pretty brilliant move.

It's just posturing and I hope Obama doesn't bite, mostly because I'd just prefer to have a President capable of doing two things at once.

Someone should tell McCain that dealing with foreign policy and dealing with domestic policy is not an either/or, mutually exclusive, proposition once you're in the White House.

Sad and desparate. But then again, cheap, dishonest, and slimy moves like this have bred success for the last eight years, so why not stick with what works.

If it's not incredibly clear that, regardless of what you think of Obama, McCain has absolutely zero business running this country, add this notch and let me know when you finally figure it out.

But if Osama did it you would call it "the right thing to do."


No wonder things are so fucl<ed up...you people are so polarized it's not even funny.

[ateamstupid]

What a desperate wimp.

[Mortimer]

Stupid is as stupid does.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

But if Osama did it you would call it "the right thing to do."


No wonder things are so fucl<ed up...you people are so polarized it's not even funny.

and I don't mean that in a gay way....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

When I said "stop towing the party line" what I meant was if you believe that McCain's move was anything BUT political then you are towing the party line.

As for a solution, neither McCain's or Obama's presence is going to make a hill of beans of difference in terms of the final result. This is basically a done deal anyway as everyone knows that this has to get done this weekend. period. end of story.

That is why this whole "im going to suspend my campaign" thing is so ridiculous.

As for a solution, the devil will surely be in the details. If there is a smart group regulating the assets that government will be buying, this will be a money making proposition for the taxpayer.

i wonder tho if it will get done this weekend...it's a huge bill, a huge buyout paid for with taxpayers money-something everyone in congress tends to forget. they're supposed to be the caretakers of our wealth, not just the spenders of it.
what would be a bigger tab? the buyout, or do nothing and see what happens when the dust settles if they don't do a buyout? no way of knowing the latter...til after the fact.
and i don't know that i've ever seen a money maker for the taxpayers, this will surely be a brand new thing for us. in business, we always try to stay ahead of the curve-why is washington unable to do that? probably explains why as low as bushs approval rating is, congress is even lower.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by geeker2

and I don't mean that in a gay way....

Yes you did.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder tho if it will get done this weekend...it's a huge bill, a huge buyout paid for with taxpayers money-something everyone in congress tends to forget. they're supposed to be the caretakers of our wealth, not just the spenders of it.
what would be a bigger tab? the buyout, or do nothing and see what happens when the dust settles if they don't do a buyout? no way of knowing the latter...til after the fact.
and i don't know that i've ever seen a money maker for the taxpayers, this will surely be a brand new thing for us. in business, we always try to stay ahead of the curve-why is washington unable to do that? probably explains why as low as bushs approval rating is, congress is even lower.

I give your bush a very high approval rating.

[Mortimer]

Phooey.


Dannie stopped talking dirty again.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

But if Osama did it you would call it "the right thing to do."


No wonder things are so fucl<ed up...you people are so polarized it's not even funny.

I get it. Trick question.

Because Obama has no need to pull a cheap, obvious, pathetic stunt like that to try to score points, he would never do it.

So your gotcha moment is rejected out of hand.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I get it. Trick question.

Because Obama has no need to pull a cheap, obvious, pathetic stunt like that to try to score points, he would never do it.

So your gotcha moment is rejected out of hand.

Great dumb fucl< answer.




DiSpencer....get discovered already---OK?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Great dumb fucl< answer.

DiSpencer....get discovered already---OK?

Here we go. Luckily I won't have time to play around here all night tonight, but doesn't it ever occur to you that you and yours always go out of your way, without the slightest hint of irony, in response to a post I make with a point, to say things like "great dumb fuc|< answer" in a post which is actually nothing more than a completely empty, useless, "dumb fuc|<" post itself?

It's all so rich.