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Old 10-10-2008, 06:37 PM
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That was a nice performance by her that day. For Juvy fillies though, I would probably go with Countess Diana or Flanders.
Hard to argue those two but I think Phone Chatter has got to be considered because of the two she beat, Sardula and Heavenly Prize, both top level horses.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:55 PM
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Manila............checked and blocked and still won the Turf.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:30 PM
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In no particular order
Wild Again's Classic 1984
Ferdinand's Classic 1987 over Alysheba
Arazi's Juvy 1991
Personal Ensign's Distaff 1988
Inside Informations's Distaff 1995

Honorable mention
Miesque's Mile in 1987
Cozzene's mile in 1986
Lure's mile in 1992
Steinlen's mile in 1989
Six Perfection's mile in 2003
Princess Rooney's Distaff in 1984
Bayakoa's Distaff in 1989
Beautiful Pleasure's Distaff in 1999
Flanders Juvy filly in 1994
Halfbridled's Juvy filly in 2003
Indian Blessing's juvy in 2007
Ghostzapper's Classic in 2004
Sunday Silence's Classic in 1989
Skip Away's Classic in 1997
Awesome Again's Classic in 1998
Tiznow's Classic in 2000
Manila's Turf in 1986
Theatrical's Turf in 1987
Fantastic Light's Turf in 2001
War Pass' Juvy in 2007
Street Sense's Juvy in 2006
Banks Hill's Filly turf in 2001
Midnight Lute's sprint in 2007
Safely Kept's Sprint in 1990
Very Subtle's Sprint in 1987
Precisionist's Sprint in 1985
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:03 PM
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In no particular order
Wild Again's Classic 1984
Ferdinand's Classic 1987 over Alysheba
Arazi's Juvy 1991
Personal Ensign's Distaff 1988
Inside Informations's Distaff 1995

Honorable mention
Miesque's Mile in 1987
Cozzene's mile in 1986
Lure's mile in 1992
Steinlen's mile in 1989
Six Perfection's mile in 2003
Princess Rooney's Distaff in 1984
Bayakoa's Distaff in 1989
Beautiful Pleasure's Distaff in 1999
Flanders Juvy filly in 1994
Halfbridled's Juvy filly in 2003
Indian Blessing's juvy in 2007
Ghostzapper's Classic in 2004
Sunday Silence's Classic in 1989
Skip Away's Classic in 1997
Awesome Again's Classic in 1998
Tiznow's Classic in 2000
Manila's Turf in 1986
Theatrical's Turf in 1987
Fantastic Light's Turf in 2001
War Pass' Juvy in 2007
Street Sense's Juvy in 2006
Banks Hill's Filly turf in 2001
Midnight Lute's sprint in 2007
Safely Kept's Sprint in 1990
Very Subtle's Sprint in 1987
Precisionist's Sprint in 1985
Mind you how the monmouth track was playing, in Routes, on Cup weekend last year. Granted both went on to prove that the results werent flukes, they were definitly aided by the track.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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1) Personal Ensign 1988 (yeah... that was easy)
2) Ghostzapper 2004
3) Skip Away 1997 (he beat nothing but man that was awesome)
4) Unbridled's Song/Hennessey 1995 (crushed a good field... Hennessey set torrid fractions and almost got home)
5) English Channel 2007
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:20 PM
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1) Personal Ensign 1988 (yeah... that was easy)
2) Ghostzapper 2004
3) Skip Away 1997 (he beat nothing but man that was awesome)
4) Unbridled's Song/Hennessey 1995 (crushed a good field... Hennessey set torrid fractions and almost got home)
5) English Channel 2007
English Channel? Did GPK steal your password?
Unbridled's Song should have an asterick due to Donna Bartons ineptness
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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English Channel? Did GPK steal your password?
Unbridled's Song should have an asterick due to Donna Bartons ineptness


Ask me again tomorrow and I'll probably have 3 different choices underneath the top two. The reason the BC IS such a great event is the incredible horseflesh that gathers for it every year.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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Ask me again tomorrow and I'll probably have 3 different choices underneath the top two. The reason the BC IS such a great event is the incredible horseflesh that gathers for it every year.
I almost put UBS on my honorable mention. I thought that last years Turf was arguably the weakest group ever plus I would never feed Kevs EC addiction

Looking over the charts there are so many great races that we have forgotten about. I dont know anyone can leave Wild Again off the list. Not only was it an unbelievable performance, it was one of the largest betting scores ever.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:50 PM
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I almost put UBS on my honorable mention. I thought that last years Turf was arguably the weakest group ever plus I would never feed Kevs EC addiction

Looking over the charts there are so many great races that we have forgotten about. I dont know anyone can leave Wild Again off the list. Not only was it an unbelievable performance, it was one of the largest betting scores ever.
How did Pleasant Home not make your honorable mention list? I thought her race that day was extremely strong.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:52 PM
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This is obvioulsy a very subjective discussion, but I really don't know how in the world any top five list could exclude Inside Information.
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:59 PM
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How did Pleasant Home not make your honorable mention list? I thought her race that day was extremely strong.
Yeah she probably belongs
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:50 PM
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In no particular order
Wild Again's Classic 1984
Ferdinand's Classic 1987 over Alysheba
Arazi's Juvy 1991
Personal Ensign's Distaff 1988
Inside Informations's Distaff 1995
Princess Rooney went one full second faster than Wild Again at the same distance on the same days as the Breeders Cup Classic - and both PR and WA went an identical 1:37 flat to the mile call.

I realize WA deserves some extra credit for the fast and pressured pace - but that simply can't be rated a top five all-time BC performance.

I don't agree about PE's Distaff - it was certainly one of the best moments in BC history - but the individual performance itself is no way top 5 material.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:57 PM
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I don't agree about PE's Distaff - it was certainly one of the best moments in BC history - but the individual performance itself is no way top 5 material.
I agree with you completely on this point and was a bit shocked to see so many people have it as a top five performance. I am a big Personal Ensign fan, and it was a fabulous race to watch, but the amazing thing about it to me was that she managed to win without turning in a truly great performance.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:58 PM
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Personal Ensign's Distaff
Arazi's Juvie
Johanesburg's Juvie
Johanesburg's Juvie went significantly slower than the Juv Fillies. I doubt it would make the top 100 BC performances ever.
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:01 PM
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g zapper 2004
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:08 PM
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I almost put UBS on my honorable mention. I thought that last years Turf was arguably the weakest group ever plus I would never feed Kevs EC addiction
Looking over the charts there are so many great races that we have forgotten about. I dont know anyone can leave Wild Again off the list. Not only was it an unbelievable performance, it was one of the largest betting scores ever.



























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Old 10-10-2008, 11:25 PM
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Just a reminder to Scavs as to what it looked like that day


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Old 10-10-2008, 11:28 PM
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Johanesburg's Juvie went significantly slower than the Juv Fillies. I doubt it would make the top 100 BC performances ever.
Only if you are basing it on speed figures. First, the 1-2 fillies (Tempera and Imperial Gesture) were pretty good horses in their own right. Second, Johannesburg beat a very deep field that year (Siphonic, Came Home, Officer, Repent, Publication, etc.). Third, it was the cap to a brilliant globe-trotting, and unbeaten juvenile campaign.
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:29 PM
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4. Arazi-01 Juvenile
He didn't have much to beat but the way he did it was incredible. The most devastating move I've seen. Only seen it one other time and that was by him in the Derby. Even though he wasn't beating much, he wasn't supposed to do it that easily.
Weren't Bertrando, Pine Bluff, and Dance Floor in there?
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:36 PM
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Tiznow running up to Albert the Great's hip,
I think he is gonna get cut off, he pushes through
and outgames Sahkee.

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