Andy Beyer still the best

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not exactly sure who is the "best" but hasn't he proven himself to be among the elite?

All his system did was make retards able to read a racing form, if that is making someone "elite" then yes you are correct.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by pba1817

All his system did was make retards able to read a racing form, if that is making someone "elite" then yes you are correct.

This begs the obvious question.......how were you able to read the Form before the inclusion of the Beyer figures?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This begs the obvious question.......how were you able to read the Form before the inclusion of the Beyer figures?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This begs the obvious question.......how were you able to read the Form before the inclusion of the Beyer figures?

Usually you pass on the lay ups

[viscount26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This begs the obvious question.......how were you able to read the Form before the inclusion of the Beyer figures?

The darts and the dartboard system me thinks

[freddymo]

I have never been able to read the form.. I prefer betting on fixed races. The take out and trip work just doesn't seem to matter when you know CC lopez is going to be left at the gate.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I have never been able to read the form.. I prefer betting on fixed races. The take out and trip work just doesn't seem to matter when you know CC lopez is going to be left at the gate.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not exactly sure who is the "best" but hasn't he proven himself to be among the elite?

I think he's more than proven that his opinion is worth listening to. I think there are several members of this board that have opinions that are worth listening to more than others as well. Even when I disagree with them. Blackthroatedwind, for example, is one who's opinions I place a lot of value in, even if he thinks I'm being disingenuous when I say that.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

So then what does that make me? Look on the thread and you'll see that I picked him too. Does that make me co-best with Beyer?

......no that makes you 3rd best since he completed my pick 3 and exacta.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

......no that makes you 3rd best since he completed my pick 3 and exacta.

What kind of self-respecting inveterate self-aggrandizer would I be if I failed to mention I had that exacta too? I had the pick three as well (on the threads, I have my selections up there). But since I didn't bet the races out of fear of synthetics, I made nothing. So I'll settle for third best. Congrats to you though.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

What kind of self-respecting inveterate self-aggrandizer would I be if I failed to mention I had that exacta too? I had the pick three as well (on the threads, I have my selections up there). But since I didn't bet the races out of fear of synthetics, I made nothing. So I'll settle for third best. Congrats to you though.

......king, you had it and didnt wager? sorry man......that hurts

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

......king, you had it and didnt wager? sorry man......that hurts

Damn synthetics. I just didn't feel comfortable playing all of those first timers on a new surface. I'll know next year to play only horses that have run well on synthetic or grass in the pass and toss just about every horse that has won only on dirt. All 16 of the horses that made up the exactas in the main track races had either won on synthetics or turf.

[GenuineRisk]

At least no one was called an invertebrate self-aggrandizer.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, you're right. His accomplishments and contributions to this game can be summarized by your sentence. It's amazing to me some of the stuff I read around here. I'm going to take my own advice and not give you anymore of the attention you are desperately seeking.

But CAN YOU FOLLOW up on your own advice?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This begs the obvious question.......how were you able to read the Form before the inclusion of the Beyer figures?

PICTURES, or course. But those big bold numbers really make it easy to pick the 3-5 shots every race!!

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I have never been able to read the form.. I prefer betting on fixed races. The take out and trip work just doesn't seem to matter when you know CC lopez is going to be left at the gate.

I prefer this theory as well.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by pba1817

When was Beyer ever considered the best anyway....?

I don't know if he is the best handicapper out there, but no handicapper has contributed more to the sport than him. His books are the only must reads in the business, although I like to read all of them. I bet he has brought more people into the sport than anyone out there.

He was an innovator, which separates him from the pack.

[Bobby Fischer]

Beyer quote from page 6 of Saturday's BC DRF:

"Andy Serling, in-house racing analyst for the New York Racing Association, declares: 'The synthetic tracks are more like synthetic turf courses than dirt courses. They should paint them all green.'"

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Beyer quote from page 6 of Saturday's BC DRF:

"Andy Serling, in-house racing analyst for the New York Racing Association, declares: 'The synthetic tracks are more like synthetic turf courses than dirt courses. They should paint them all green.'"

There have been a LOT of people saying that same thing since 2006.

[cmorioles]

And even a few since 2005.