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Old 01-08-2009, 08:31 AM
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Okay kgb, here it is, Bigs' MCL 8-7000 logic as warped as it is. From the bottom to the top:

11 - Fiore De - Doesn't seem to have the speed to get to the front and hasn't exactly been finishing with a flourish. Cronk/Homeister have had 4 previous tries at this level and haven't gotten it done. Probably won't get it done today either.
10 - Trial Ridge - 11 tries, the only time hitting the board was on an off track. 19 BSF is his top in those 11 tries. Next.
9 - Winblaiseandshow - Another that doesn't have the speed to get to the front and does not finish (esp. at 6f). No shot.
8 - Supposeo - Lost by double digit lengths each time out. Did flash some speed in the slop. Only 5 starts, so possible improvement there, but not today.
7 - Speculator - Beyers improving since layoff. Showed some speed in last and has a big shot here. Will be underlayed and HVG will f' it up.
6 - Marquizi - Why ship to TuP? This horse is really bad. 20 tries to no avail.
5 - Heza King - Unlike others in here, he's only had 1 bad race. It was his only race, but I'm willing to give Allen and Allen one more crack at it before giving up on this one. Look for a better break today and this one will be more involved. Maybe.
4 - Proficient One - Dropping down for this one, but there is a reason he has been going two turns....he's slow. Look for him to trail the field with a 1% jock aboard.
3 - No Show Bill - The obvious one for me. Draw a line through the two turn slop try and the race two back crushes these. Only 4 fast track tries is a positive.
2 - Sweetsoutherndance - Four ugly races here last year. Owen McQuade is no miracle worker so I'm not expecting a big improvement off the long layoff. Nope.
1 - Double Duke - IMO the speed of the race. The 1 post forces their hand to go in order to get any position and avoid traffic. Look for Cruz to gun to the lead and try to run them off their feet. Hopefully he can relax at some point and the class drop can carry him home.

The 3 could be a single, but I don't trust him that much. 1,3,5 for me.

Go ahead and have yourself a good laugh now.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:31 AM
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Do I have to give my logic on a public forum? Because when it is bottom level maiden claimers, said logic is quite thin.

No...I see what you are seeing now.

I am very seriously considering revamping my ticket and playing against both Verily True and Heros Image in the 7th. Only reason I MAY still use VT is because Ronnie is up. Only thing is Hinsley probably couldn't have trained Ouija Board to win on the turf
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:36 AM
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Okay kgb, here it is, Bigs' MCL 8-7000 logic as warped as it is. From the bottom to the top:

11 - Fiore De - Doesn't seem to have the speed to get to the front and hasn't exactly been finishing with a flourish. Cronk/Homeister have had 4 previous tries at this level and haven't gotten it done. Probably won't get it done today either.
10 - Trial Ridge - 11 tries, the only time hitting the board was on an off track. 19 BSF is his top in those 11 tries. Next.
9 - Winblaiseandshow - Another that doesn't have the speed to get to the front and does not finish (esp. at 6f). No shot.
8 - Supposeo - Lost by double digit lengths each time out. Did flash some speed in the slop. Only 5 starts, so possible improvement there, but not today.
7 - Speculator - Beyers improving since layoff. Showed some speed in last and has a big shot here. Will be underlayed and HVG will f' it up.
6 - Marquizi - Why ship to TuP? This horse is really bad. 20 tries to no avail.
5 - Heza King - Unlike others in here, he's only had 1 bad race. It was his only race, but I'm willing to give Allen and Allen one more crack at it before giving up on this one. Look for a better break today and this one will be more involved. Maybe.
4 - Proficient One - Dropping down for this one, but there is a reason he has been going two turns....he's slow. Look for him to trail the field with a 1% jock aboard.
3 - No Show Bill - The obvious one for me. Draw a line through the two turn slop try and the race two back crushes these. Only 4 fast track tries is a positive.
2 - Sweetsoutherndance - Four ugly races here last year. Owen McQuade is no miracle worker so I'm not expecting a big improvement off the long layoff. Nope.
1 - Double Duke - IMO the speed of the race. The 1 post forces their hand to go in order to get any position and avoid traffic. Look for Cruz to gun to the lead and try to run them off their feet. Hopefully he can relax at some point and the class drop can carry him home.

The 3 could be a single, but I don't trust him that much. 1,3,5 for me.

Go ahead and have yourself a good laugh now.

Only problem with this one is that she used to be married to "he that shall remain nameless", so she has every right to f*ck me over too
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:45 AM
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Only problem with this one is that she used to be married to "he that shall remain nameless", so she has every right to f*ck me over too
So you are getting Ferrer'd by proxy?
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:46 AM
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So you are getting Ferrer'd by proxy?

It sucks man...you have no idea. Laviowhatshisname never did Scavs this wrong.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:49 AM
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7th race post time is 3:12. The O/U at what time I get to the OTB is 2:00.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:58 AM
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Just the AE's in the first leg...

Thursday, January 8, 2009

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Firm
Portable Rail: at 12 feet

Weather: Sunny – low 70’s

Super High 5 CARRYOVER: $3,471.04
Pick 6 CARRYOVER: $0


RACE 1 #4-jockey F. De La Cruz
#8-Scratched(Flying Mongoose)
#9-+2
Post Time 12:25

RACE 2
#1-Scratched(Dirtkicker) P.O.E.
#3-+1
Post Time 12:50

RACE 3 #7-+2
Post Time 1:15

RACE 4 No Changes
Post Time 1:42

RACE 5 #8-is a gelding
Post Time 2:11

RACE 6 #5-+2
Post Time 2:41

RACE 7 (Turf)
#11-Scratched(Moonshine Mania)
#12-Scratched(Distant Strike)
#13-Scratched(Into the Night)
#14-Scratched(Dubai Rambler)
Post Time 3:11

RACE 8 No Changes
Post Time 3:41

RACE 9 No Changes
Post Time 4:11

RACE 10 #4-no lasix
Post Time 4:41
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:19 PM
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Race 1 - DD

10/1,2,4,5,9

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:28 PM
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It's HVG day at the Downs!
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:17 PM
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Did he win a race??!!
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:32 PM
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Did he win a race??!!
He won the 1st
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:12 PM
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P4:


R7) In agreement that the 2 firsters and the 2 with big numbers off the last are worth including - 2 Sword Play, 6 Go Tebow Go (Omen ), 7 Verily True, and the 9 Heros Image

R8) Need 4 here as I'm just plain chickensh!t to leave off Centeno or Ness, both will be overbet but have very capable horses - Like the 2 Pyrite Apex on the drop/cutback/turf-dirt, 5 J's Lil Diva - Arterburn's been red hot and this gal is burning up the track in the morning; 3 Joan's Red Dawn may be a trap as she showed little in the stretch under a dream ride last - Centeno aboard for the drop to 10; 4 Close the Deal looks in the best from of them all - obliterated N3L for 8 last out here in Tampa and is poised for the huge step up to open 10

R9) Dale Bennett's stable is firing on all cylinders early and 2 Casablanca Babe has the look here off the layoff to get it done. Haw shippers have proven a nice angle; 4 Country Kat got it done at this condition 3 weeks ago, stretching out for J. Ness must use; 7 Divine Symphony was routinely well place in N1X company at Suf this summer/fall and after the turf experiment here 12/18, could be sitting on a big one as the lone speed in the contest.

R10) Nightcap features maidens offered for 8000. Yup. HVG may just be off the schnide with a win earlier in the card, but his unbelieveably bad riding thus far this meet have cost owners and bettors alike much heartburn. Still in all, 7 Speculator was a clear 2nd best last and would be considered the most likely here save for the mount. 3 No Show Bill gets the very capable Ronnie Allen Jr in the irons and a toss of the last effort over the Calder slop reveals the cut back ripe for the picking.


2,6,7,9//2,3,4,5//2,4,7//3,7 = 96.00
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:12 PM
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He won the 1st
thnx Ian
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