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dr. fager · #21 08-04-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

I don't need Lezcano there to make money....actually I enjoy him being there because he gets way over bet sometimes.....

that's not what I meant....criminy

GPK · #22 08-04-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dr.fager

that's not what I meant....criminy

I can't read your mind peckerhead...

Gander · #23 08-04-2006, 10:11 AM

We're lucky enough to get all the NYRA replays on TV (twice every morning). I for one cant stand watching races on computers, but if you have no other option, then yes sign up for it. $10 a month is well worth it.

Believe me, we pay for these replays too. Our cable bill is all teh way up to $50 a month. Add Road Runner to that and we have $100 a month we pay to Time Warner.

Maybe I should move back home!

#24 08-04-2006, 10:35 AM

Well I hated to be the bearer of bad news but I thought I'd call Kev and let you guys know. It rained pretty hard here. The sun is shining and there is a breeze and its warm. The track should start out sealed and muddy and progress to good/fast throughout the day. I can't see it staying muddy the whole day unless Passero decides to have one of his lothed sealed track festivals.
Drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. Joe King is the best in the business and for years here he never sealed a damn track. You harrow it and leave it cut open and the wind and sun will do the rest. When I see those cement blocks dragging behind the tractors I wanna pull a Joe Pesci(Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield) and leap over the fence and attack the guy. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep water sealed into and pushed down into a racetrack, none.

GPK · #25 08-04-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Well I hated to be the bearer of bad news but I thought I'd call Kev and let you guys know. It rained pretty hard here. The sun is shining and there is a breeze and its warm. The track should start out sealed and muddy and progress to good/fast throughout the day. I can't see it staying muddy the whole day unless Passero decides to have one of his lothed sealed track festivals.
Drives me absolutely ****ing crazy. Joe King is the best in the business and for years here he never sealed a damn track. You harrow it and leave it cut open and the wind and sun will do the rest. When I see those cement blocks dragging behind the tractors I wanna pull a Joe Pesci(Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield) and leap over the fence and attack the guy. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to keep water sealed into and pushed down into a racetrack, none.

Mike...if I play the late 4, think it is safe enough for me to cap it as dry and fast?

#26 08-04-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Mike...if I play the late 4, think it is safe enough for me to cap it as dry and fast?

I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.

GPK · #27 08-04-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.

Yeah...thats why I really just plan on watching the early part of the card. If I don't like the way that it's playing, there is always tomorrow. I also want to see the scratches too, before deciding if I am gonna play.

Gander · #28 08-04-2006, 10:54 AM

I also want to see the scratches too

There will be many. I hear the Violette horse in the 5th can run.

#29 08-04-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I also want to see the scratches too

There will be many. I hear the Violette horse in the 5th can run.

You heard very correctly. He's much better than average.

GPK · #30 08-04-2006, 11:07 AM

Just read the track is sealed and muddy.

Downthestretch55 · #31 08-04-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

I'd try for good/fast. But beware!!! Days like this often produce big biases and biases that change as well. While wet and sealed the track may play to speed or pressers. As it dries out(the slope of the track cannot be seen by the naked eye but it does exist) it always dries from the outside in. Makes the outside footing firmer and better and you may see horses catapulting the down the center of the track. Keep an eye on conditions and watch races even if you aren't playing them. Days like this are extremely tricky but can be extremely rewarding for those who pay attention and draw the proper conclusions about how races are flowing.

You're right.
I'm not there to look at the track but the web site says "muddy sealed".
Will definitely change all day.

Scav · #32 08-04-2006, 11:15 AM

Love In the Gold even more now, this also moves Yolanda up to the 2nd spot IMO

GPK · #33 08-04-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

You heard very correctly. He's much better than average.

He must be able to...firster and he is ML 3-1....be typical...probably go off at 3-5 and off no value.

Gander · #34 08-04-2006, 11:42 AM

Kev-
Morning lines in races loaded with firsters are incredibly inaccurate. Have no clue what to expect, maybe even money or 4/1.

Violette does well in these types of races up here, hence the reason for 3/1 ML. No other reason.

GPK · #35 08-04-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Kev-
Morning lines in races loaded with firsters are incredibly inaccurate. Have no clue what to expect, maybe even money or 4/1.

Violette does well in these types of races up here, hence the reason for 3/1 ML. No other reason.

Tim, i'm just going on the fact that you heard he can run, Mike confirmed he can run. Know what that tells me? 75% of Saratoga has heard that he can run. Hence....in typical NY wise guy fashion

, he will be bet down