warning, this is dark

[dellinger63]

many State facilities also have the elderly, stroke victims and those with closed head and brain injuries not to mention criminals deemed by the court of having mental disorders all warehoused together.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I'll tell you one thing. Whoever is managing Chris Brown sure wishes they had a better treatment for Black Rage(because that boy sure did do a job on Rhianna.) Can you imagine the guy not only beat her up very badly, but put bite marks on her. That's a disaster.

[steve]

ativan is a very addicting drug. Most MDs, or the ones that really care, try other meds first. the problem is that it is still a very inexact science. what works for one does not work for another. i'm sorry about your friend but she is in a better place now that she does not need to suffer

[pdrift1]

so sorry for the loss of your friend lori. i know how you feel right now.

i lost one of my close friends to suicide over a year ago.

his was depression and a crystal meth addiction he couldn't kick.

he ended up thinking the new house he was moving into with his gf wasn't good. he kept saying to her he felt bad vibes about it but moved in . later she was freaking out cause he thought the house or something in it was out to get him. the meth was mentally taking him down. but nobody knew how bad he was on it as he hid it very well.

was a lead singer for a heavy rock band in minneapolis and had a amazing voice and always put up a front that everything was fine.

his mother called him the night before and he told her god is closer then you think. and all the years ive known dan ive never here him say something like that as he wasn't really religous per say.

the next day he ended up stabbing himself 9 times in the chest and stomach with a knife from the kitchen.

was a hon pallbearer at the funeral as he was cremated and it was tough. had to listen to the songs he wrote himself and sang on a tape at the funeral and him singing stairway to heaven all done in a studio. so many things run thru your mind in a time like that. and i'm sure they are with you also.

your right about it not being a cop out . it was just to much and as sad as it is your right . she is at peace now.

just go easy on yourself and take care

roger

[letswastemoney]

Hospitals cannot fix depression.....only when someone faces their problems will it be fixed. I absolutely hate anti depressants....

5 years ago, I was so depressed and didn't know who to turn to, so I turned to doctors and told them how I felt...and they just kept saying, "Here get these pills and you'll be fine!!!" And so I would take Paxil, Prozac, and many other wonderful drugs that I'll remember for the rest of my life.

The problem is I don't have many friends, but drugs aren't going to fix that and it took me a long time to realize that I have to fix what's truly wrong rather than seeking a temporary cure.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by steve

ativan is a very addicting drug. Most MDs, or the ones that really care, try other meds first. the problem is that it is still a very inexact science. what works for one does not work for another. i'm sorry about your friend but she is in a better place now that she does not need to suffer

Well, anxiety( panic attacks are the extreme form of anxiety) is an odd thing. For those who have never had it, the best way to describe it is:

1)heart is racing
2)very dry mouth
3)trouble breathing(can't seem to take a full breath of air)
4) can hear your heart beat in your head or ears
5) usually comes for no reason
6) You probably go to the E.R, because your brain is telling you you're gunna die(yep..not fun)...even though you aren't in pain, or not much pain...damn it, you can't get your air
7)You're sure something is seriously wrong with you
8) leaves(or eases up) for no reason
8) your scared it's gunna come back(because it's awful)

O.K., if you want to use Ativan or whatever for this, then I can understand why(you want to get rid of this.) You're afraid it's gunna come back. I can tell you that you can get rid of it yourself. The 1st thing to do is to slowly push your stomach muscles out when your inhaling air. You don't want to hyperventilate(which people tend to do if they don't push their stomach muscles slowly out when breathing at a nice moderate rate.) Now, you're gunna do what I say, and still feel like you're somewhat unable to get your air. I didn't say it would make the feeling go away. See, you need to accept that you're having this feeling without adding to the damage it can do to you. Panic attacks feel bad. The way to look at it is like a gallon container without the milk in it. The panic attack comes, and fills the jug half full. If you don't realize it for what it is(and believe it isn't going to kill you,) then you are gunna fill up the other half of that container(and have a very bad panic attack.) You need to accept the fact that you're having a panic attack. You're not gunna die. Yes, it's awful. Don't show it fear. That's it's fuel. I don't know why people get anxiety/ panic attacks. I do know that their fuel is fear of them. If you're gunna wonder what's wrong with you, then, again, that's fuel to make these things worse. You have to accept that it's anxiety, or panic attacks. Don't question what it is. Accept it. Embrace it. Know exactly what it is(an evil trick your body is playing on you.) If you fear panic attacks, then you'll keep having them. You'll see that they will continue to lessen with time(if you just let them come without making them worse,) because you've taken their power away(fear.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Hospitals cannot fix depression.....only when someone faces their problems will it be fixed. I absolutely hate anti depressants....

5 years ago, I was so depressed and didn't know who to turn to, so I turned to doctors and told them how I felt...and they just kept saying, "Here get these pills and you'll be fine!!!" And so I would take Paxil, Prozac, and many other wonderful drugs that I'll remember for the rest of my life.

The problem is I don't have many friends, but drugs aren't going to fix that and it took me a long time to realize that I have to fix what's truly wrong rather than seeking a temporary cure.

Depression is often what Doctors tell people they have if they don't know what's wrong with them. They don't have to keep testing for hormonal problems etc. that can be hard to detect. Like, for instance, Oprah said she went to 4 doctors before she found out she had a hormone deficiency. A typical woman would of been told depression was causing her fatigue. If something's not easy to diagnose, then they say you have depression. They don't have to prove someone has depression. There is no test for it. Sure, if there are severe mood problems, then it's probably depression, but too often people with fatigue get labeled as depressed. Whether you're on antidepressants or not, if you have something other than depression, then it's not gunna get better unless it gets treated. Do they do full hormonal work ups on people before they call them depressed? No, they're too cheap. They do some basic blood tests with huge normal value ranges, and if those few simple basic tests aren't abnormal, then guess what? You're gunna get diagnosed as depressed. It's their cheapest option.

[Cajungator26]

Damn, Lori ... sorry to hear about your friend. Hope she found the peace she was so desperately looking for.