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Old 02-10-2009, 04:35 PM
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1. Old Fashioned
2. Patena
3. West Side Bernie
4. Giant Oak
5. Vineyard Haven
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Old 02-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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Old fashioned
Fresian fires
Pioneer of the nile
Giant oak
The pegasus horse who ran second to fires
everyone who likes these horses, shed a tear whilst crossing them off your list...they have zero chance now. oh, and the other two he added to his list of five...
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Old 02-10-2009, 06:26 PM
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I like any horse Kiaran Mclaughlin trains.
This guy is my favorite trainer. He is due to win a derby.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:00 PM
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/Pioneerofthenile, Poltergeist, Patena, Fresian Fires &Chocolate Candy and the Pamplemousse and Beethoven and on & on way too many to decide.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:02 PM
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I like any horse Kiaran Mclaughlin trains.
This guy is my favorite trainer. He is due to win a derby.
I agree with this. Guys like Frankel and Pletcher and the Dubai people......they need to pay their dues first then maybe it will be their time. McLaughlin is due now.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:09 PM
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I think you missed the most important point......



......he just gave definitive proof that he can't count to five.


I can count, but its hard to have only 5 at this point of year.
I know deep down inside YOU REALLY REALLY LIKE ME.




The fact that he's unable to shut up had already been firmly established.


I can count, but its hard to have only 5 at this point of year.
I know deep down inside YOU REALLY REALLY LIKE ME.
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Old 02-10-2009, 07:14 PM
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I know deep down inside YOU REALLY REALLY LIKE ME.
Welcome Sally Field into the discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynQCmqvXZs

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Old 02-10-2009, 07:43 PM
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I agree with this. Guys like Frankel and Pletcher and the Dubai people......they need to pay their dues first then maybe it will be their time. McLaughlin is due now.
Huh? Pletcher needs to "pay his dues" but McLaughlin is due now? They've been on their own about the same time and Todd has certainly achieved more with three year olds. As for Frankel, he's been training for about 40 years, give or take and he's still got to "pay his dues" also?
Also, not sure about this year but in the long run KMclaughlin's best shot may be with a Darley horse anyhow.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:05 PM
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Guys like Frankel and Pletcher and the Dubai people......they need to pay their dues first then maybe it will be their time. McLaughlin is due now.
This might be the most outrageous statement I've ever read on this board, any horse racing board, and the web all together.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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Huh? Pletcher needs to "pay his dues" but McLaughlin is due now? They've been on their own about the same time and Todd has certainly achieved more with three year olds. As for Frankel, he's been training for about 40 years, give or take and he's still got to "pay his dues" also?
Also, not sure about this year but in the long run KMclaughlin's best shot may be with a Darley horse anyhow.
Mclaughlin's biggest client is the dubai folk either it be shadwell, darley but he does have horses for westpoint as well. Mr. Fantasy from westpoint looks to have a shot in the derby trail and become a contender for the derby.

Matter of fact, all three of Mclaughlin's "derby" horses are undefeated.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:37 PM
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I like any horse Kiaran Mclaughlin trains.
This guy is my favorite trainer. He is due to win a derby.
Sound handicapping.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:39 PM
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Sound handicapping.
i know i'm writing it down for future reference.
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This might be the most outrageous statement I've ever read on this board, any horse racing board, and the web all together.
I'm sorry that sarcasm doesn't translate well.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:56 PM
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Sound handicapping.
The only difference is that I dont BET every horse he trains.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:57 PM
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I'm sorry that sarcasm doesn't translate well.
I will bet that Mclaughlin will win a derby before Pletcher and Frankel.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:41 PM
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I'm sorry that sarcasm doesn't translate well.
Gotcha! My bad...
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:42 PM
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I will bet that Mclaughlin will win a derby before Pletcher and Frankel.
Interesting prop... Frankel doesn't get enough 3-year-olds, McLaughlin doesn't get the better ones (Dubai) so I would say Pletcher wins it first out them, but not by a wide margin.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:00 PM
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Gotcha! My bad...
Some people on this board have no idea how
much money they have made off of the
"he is due" handicapping method.

I have an idea for myself. Not much...

People should worship the "he is due" method.
They should perpetuate this method as a
very critical angle.

Baffert got tired of winning them so he
is giving the ones that are due a chance.
So throw out his Egyptian horse.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:10 PM
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Interesting prop... Frankel doesn't get enough 3-year-olds, McLaughlin doesn't get the better ones (Dubai) so I would say Pletcher wins it first out them, but not by a wide margin.

Cant really say. Pletcher has had some chances of late and could not deliver but he could surely learn from his mistakes in the past. Of the three Mclaughlin was the closest to win it with closing argument coming second at 70-1.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:24 PM
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I will bet that Mclaughlin will win a derby before Pletcher and Frankel.
He might but it will be mitigated (in your eyes, as per your post) by the being for a horse owned by "Dubai Interests" like Darley, Shadwell or others.
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